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10-18-2020, 02:33 AM | #301 |
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Clearly the actual reason Hibiki is red now is that he got a sunburn after all his training. He even wears sunglasses now!
The biggest scenes I am most fond of, or at least remember the most from this show probably is the big harmonious finisher with all three Oni back in Episode 22 (even if it didn't sound like anything in particular!), followed by their relaxed chatter as they walk out of the scene, and the climax in Episode 24, where everyone shows off their drumming skills. Knowing what I knew about the sales issues of this show, it's funny to think of this episode being like "Drum sticks are cool! You are all wrong to think otherwise!" |
10-18-2020, 02:47 AM | #302 |
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So yeah, the whole bit about Makamou getting stronger in the summertime, with Hibiki having to get stronger to match? Not only is that a joke on the usual formula for Tokusatsu shows that run through the summer, but it’s also a reference to Japanese folklore, where evil apparently increases in power around that time. It’s become one of the traditions of Japanese media, along with having the heroes on the right during a fight scene.
And Hibiki Kurenai/Crimson. Mixed feelings on that one. On one hand, it’s nice to see the Super mode debut in the middle of the show instead of at the beginning of the second quarter, as most Rider shows today are prone to doing. But on the other hand, since there’s no obvious way to make merch off it, other than the Souchaku Henshin series (which I checked. They never released a figure of the look), I have to wonder if this is another Amazing Mighty situation, that backfired on Taketera this time. Because remember, he only got away with Amazing Mighty because the show was doing so well Bandai could afford to make a loss on one suit. Whereas Hibiki… do I even need to tell you at this point? And as I’ve said before. I really love episode 24. For me, it’s the equivalent of Johnathan Frakes coming back to TNG with his baby face covered up. Namely, it’s the part where the show gets REALLY good. I just love the fight scene of Ibuki and Todoroki using the Taiko style Ongeki. |
10-18-2020, 08:58 AM | #303 |
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First time I saw Hibiki Kurenai's debut, I was impressed with how he took out all those regular size Makamou in 1 hit each by generating those self-exploding Ongekikos on impact. The new version of Kagayaki has a hot feeling to match! Aesthetically, I still like Hibiki's default form the most, cause purple is cool, but Kurenai has the best effects.
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10-18-2020, 09:55 AM | #304 |
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So yeah, the whole bit about Makamou getting stronger in the summertime, with Hibiki having to get stronger to match? Not only is that a joke on the usual formula for Tokusatsu shows that run through the summer, but it’s also a reference to Japanese folklore, where evil apparently increases in power around that time. It’s become one of the traditions of Japanese media, along with having the heroes on the right during a fight scene.
And Hibiki Kurenai/Crimson. Mixed feelings on that one. On one hand, it’s nice to see the Super mode debut in the middle of the show instead of at the beginning of the second quarter, as most Rider shows today are prone to doing. But on the other hand, since there’s no obvious way to make merch off it, other than the Souchaku Henshin series (which I checked. They never released a figure of the look), I have to wonder if this is another Amazing Mighty situation, that backfired on Taketera this time. Because remember, he only got away with Amazing Mighty because the show was doing so well Bandai could afford to make a loss on one suit. Whereas Hibiki… do I even need to tell you at this point? And as I’ve said before. I really love episode 24. For me, it’s the equivalent of Johnathan Frakes coming back to TNG with his baby face covered up. Namely, it’s the part where the show gets REALLY good. I just love the fight scene of Ibuki and Todoroki using the Taiko style Ongeki. Quote:
First time I saw Hibiki Kurenai's debut, I was impressed with how he took out all those regular size Makamou in 1 hit each by generating those self-exploding Ongekikos on impact. The new version of Kagayaki has a hot feeling to match! Aesthetically, I still like Hibiki's default form the most, cause purple is cool, but Kurenai has the best effects.
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10-18-2020, 12:38 PM | #305 |
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI VOLUME 22 - “TRANSFORMING COCOON”
*snip* But, upshot, holy shit is it awesome when Hibiki arrives at the end of this episode. He gets that big ol’ hero frame, ready to lend his strength to the overmatched youngsters. It’s a powerful finale, as all three Oni combine their attacks to bring down the Mutant Makamou, but... I mean, I had a big problem with it. The gimmick is that they’re synchronizing their attacks to defeat the monster, playing together as a band. Hibiki specifically uses the phrase “harmonize”. But then they… just play their normal solos? It doesn’t sound harmonic at all, it sounds like three people that have completely different rhythms. I was hoping they’d make some song out of their attack, but it’s just them doing what they’d normally do while two other guys did the same. Felt like a missed opportunity for something really special. And yes, the chilled out idle conversation between the three of them as they walk away from a job well done at the end is great too. It just wouldn't be Hibiki if that wasn't the note the episode left on. Quote:
But the thing that definitely most stuck in my mind about these episodes was everyone getting together for their big drum festival at the end, to the point where I didn't particularly remember it was also Kurenai's big debut at the same time. It's cool and all, but the teamwork and camaraderie between the heroes once again feels like the main attraction here. This is especially helped along by the (as always) excellent background music, doing what the previous two-parter didn't and blending together the three distinct sounds of each character into one glorious harmony. Going back, it's kind of easy to see why it would overshadow the actual exciting new thing in the episode for me. Which is still great, though! I mean, the music is no less amazing, even. Oh, and on a super minor side note, Todoroki does another Rider Rescue in 23, but since it's an Shinji Ooishi episode, there just isn't the same flair. No jumping, the hapless civilians don't run away in a panic... it's all just a little off, and unexciting. I know you'll never beat Wizard's main writer at his own game, but they could at least try a little harder.
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10-18-2020, 12:38 PM | #306 |
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So I'm actually not a huge fan of the Hibiki Kurenai suit for a couple of reasons. First of all, I'm just not a fan of the aesthetics: it's just the same suit painted red and I think it looks much better in purple with red accents. Going more monochromatic just makes it more boring for me.
The main reason I don't like it, though, is that it's a harbinger of the end times. Once that suit shows up, I know that we're just about to hit the cancellation and that always bums me out. Last time I went through the show I actually paused here for weeks so I could extend the amount of time left. That aside, I do like these episodes (haven't rewatched 24 yet, full disclosure). The Todoroki stuff is really fun - you know you've got to be really annoying if you can break Hibiki's chill. It brings some great stuff out of Hinaka, too. Hinaka is a character that probably could have been really obnoxious, but the actress did such a good job of bringing her to life that I can't help but find her incredibly endearing. We also got a memorably weird Douji and Hime; I love it when the actors really got to cut loose and be bizarre with those characters. |
10-18-2020, 12:57 PM | #307 |
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One touch I love about the plotting of the series is that they specifically gave us every possible combination of two of them at least once before getting to this point (Ibuki/Todoroki just *barely* slipping in there an episode prior), which adds even more novelty to the big moment.
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So I'm actually not a huge fan of the Hibiki Kurenai suit for a couple of reasons. First of all, I'm just not a fan of the aesthetics: it's just the same suit painted red and I think it looks much better in purple with red accents. Going more monochromatic just makes it more boring for me.
The main reason I don't like it, though, is that it's a harbinger of the end times. Once that suit shows up, I know that we're just about to hit the cancellation and that always bums me out. Last time I went through the show I actually paused here for weeks so I could extend the amount of time left. That aside, I do like these episodes (haven't rewatched 24 yet, full disclosure). The Todoroki stuff is really fun - you know you've got to be really annoying if you can break Hibiki's chill. It brings some great stuff out of Hinaka, too. Hinaka is a character that probably could have been really obnoxious, but the actress did such a good job of bringing her to life that I can't help but find her incredibly endearing. We also got a memorably weird Douji and Hime; I love it when the actors really got to cut loose and be bizarre with those characters.
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10-18-2020, 02:26 PM | #308 |
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So I'm actually not a huge fan of the Hibiki Kurenai suit for a couple of reasons. First of all, I'm just not a fan of the aesthetics: it's just the same suit painted red and I think it looks much better in purple with red accents. Going more monochromatic just makes it more boring for me.
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The main reason I don't like it, though, is that it's a harbinger of the end times. Once that suit shows up, I know that we're just about to hit the cancellation and that always bums me out. Last time I went through the show I actually paused here for weeks so I could extend the amount of time left.
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10-18-2020, 02:35 PM | #309 |
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Hibiki's Super Hero Time partner also had someone turn from purple to red and even Akibaranger Season 2 pointed out how lame that was. Hibiki's upgrade path just seems boring to me and poorly justifies its existence, which I'll talk about more when his final form debuts. Kurenai is awesome in action but yeah, there's less to look at compared to his default, I feel the same way about Cross-Z Magma which loses all of his iconic navy color. Even Faiz Blaster which is very similar to the default moves the black to the Photon Streams, adds orange as an accent and has the Bloody Cannons. Kurenai has the silver mouthguard, but that just means he can't breathe fire anymore and that's a disappointment!
I can't speak to where Hibiki's form changes go in the future, but (my criticisms about its placement in the overall story aside) I actually really liked how Crimson came about? I like that it's just Hibiki Trained Real Hard, and It's Summertime. I love that his upgrade is seasonal? It fits in with how relatively mundane and predictable the show treats all of the Takeshi stuff, how bizarrely data-driven it all is. It also fits with Hibiki's whole goddamn gimmick of being a guy who just works really hard on his skills. There's no MacGuffin or whatever that makes him more powerful. He just worked hard, and it was time for it.
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10-18-2020, 02:54 PM | #310 |
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He doesn't need to breathe fire... he's on fire!
I can't speak to where Hibiki's form changes go in the future, but (my criticisms about its placement in the overall story aside) I actually really liked how Crimson came about? I like that it's just Hibiki Trained Real Hard, and It's Summertime. I love that his upgrade is seasonal? It fits in with how relatively mundane and predictable the show treats all of the Takeshi stuff, how bizarrely data-driven it all is. It also fits with Hibiki's whole goddamn gimmick of being a guy who just works really hard on his skills. There's no MacGuffin or whatever that makes him more powerful. He just worked hard, and it was time for it.
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