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Kamen Rider Saber (US/Canadian adaptation) - first draft
Seeing how Saber is ending and hasn't done well despite the ups & downs, in a US/Canadian adaptation it could surely use fixing. Taking inspiration from Merlin 1998, Disney stories, Neverending Story & the Pagemaster. Due to a lack of monsters from the Megid, there'll be human fights too - sword to sword/axe/spear/etc.
Here's how I see an adaptation for Saber. Story: Once upon a time... We all know the creation of the universe and so made by God. There is another world built by our imaginations & dreams: The Wonder World. One human (based on Tassel) discovered that world, and brought his friends along to witness it. There they met a beautiful queen who showed them her world. However.... an evil witch desires to make her power known throughout all of time, as she fears that if no one keeps believing in their world, they'll cease to exist. She takes advantage of one of the travelers (based on Storious), to become one of her first Megid, helping her steal the Great Book. That's when the Sword of Logos was formed... to stop the Megid. ...... Years have passed, in our time, a young boy (who in reality was created by the witch to help her but turns back on his destiny in joining her side) becomes the new Kamen Rider Saber. That's all I got for now. If anyone can help me with this, please. But here's the thing: Mei's counterpart will become the later Espada as she only temporarily wields Ikazuchi until Miguel (Kento's counterpart) decides to take it back as Espada again. |
The moment you mentioned the Bible into this I can already see a dozen religious organisations full of angry parents petitioning for the removal of the show from the air. Maybe remove that part and just keep the universe creation part.
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Well anyway, I'm trying to picture the hero's growth, plus how he meets Luna's counterpart & Espada's. For Saber & Espada, they'll be childhood friends yes. Luna represents all the Disney & non-Disney princesses combined. As Saber is book-themed, it oughta make a love story between Saber & Luna. The witch makes Calibur sacrifice Luna. |
Neat, finally the first step of your adaptation. Let loose your imagination unless you’re really gonna put your adaptation into a tv show.
I can help you illustrate some swordman if you want and i have spare time and energy, at least once. You can check my art at my instagram, @wiarthaasutra |
If this Miguel guy is going to take back Ikazuchi from Mei, then I presume you have a plan for Calibur and Mei after that?
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So... I don't have any plans for Mei & Calibur just yet. Sami is a romantic interest for Blades anyway. |
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Names are also a problem too. Arthur/Saber: A teenager/young adult who sometimes goes to the library to read a book or two. His uncle (in reality is the original Saber who later became the new Calibur), left behind his book & sword for his nephew when the time came for him to take his place. It turns, out the boy is created by the evil witch to serve her ambitions. Lance/Blades: The water swordsman who became Saber's friend. Sami/Espada III: Saber's friend who works at the library. She takes part in his adventures and slowly falls in love with Blades. She becomes the new Espada after Miguel was killed. Miguel/Espada/Calibur III: Saber's childhood friend who became the Thunder Swordsman. Was killed by Saber's uncle as his sword was left for Sami. He was reborn as the new Calibur, until he later takes back his sword. Luna: Saber's childhood friend & future lover who was cursed by the evil witch. Buster: The Earth Swordsman & oldest of the bunch. (played by Geno Segers) Koji/Kenzan: The young ninja & Wind Swordsman. He looks up to Miguel, but sees the new Saber lame. He's immature & arrogant. Sami hates him for how he disrespects literature and only acts & not think. His origin story turns out, his mother tried to runaway from the Sword of Logos knowing their evil intentions. As a child, they tried to escape, but she was killed for it. Slash: A musician who's grandfather was a swordsmith. He takes up his granddad's notes in modifying swords against the Megid and other foes. Sophia/Calibur IV: A mystic/queen like a "Fairy Godmother" helps the swordsmen & Saber in their battles. In battle, she'll wear something similar to Zelda's. Merklyn/Saikou: The Light Sword/Swordsman who sealed himself in his own sword awaiting to be freed when the true threat rises. Thanks to Saber who took up the King Arthur book, he was freed. When his friends turn against him, Merklyn comes to his aid to help him find the real traitor & "the evil witch". Sabela: ? Durendal: ? "Evil Witch": The main antagonist of the series who's goal is to bring humanity back to the "Old Ways". She created the Megid to serve her plans and the protagonist. Mordred (Storious): The witch's Megid creation during the ancient times. Legeiel: One of the Megid in our time. Zooous: One of the Megid in our time. Desast/Falchion II: Mordred's creation who was intrigued by Koji/Kenzan. (played by Brian Hanford who played V in DMC5) Falchion: An old friend of Merklyn's who lost his way and sought out ruination on the world. That's all I got so far. What do you all think? Anything you all want to add and fix? |
Maybe you can searching for foundation of conlict theory by James Scott Bell for your adaptation first rather than focusing on small detail. You can add all of thos when you start working in plotline of your story.
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Need help with the characters if you all could kindly help. The names as well. Also need help coming up with a good name for the witch.
"Evil Witch": ? (ex. Queen Mab?) Kamiyama Touma: ? Pendragon - Kamijo Daichi: Deacon (Saber's uncle) Shindo Rintaro: Lance - Nagamine Kenshin: ? Sudo Mei: Sami ? Fukamiya Kento: Miguel - Shinsen Kyoichiro: ? Luna: ? Ogami Ryo: ? Akamichi Ren: ? - Amane Kagami: ? Daishinji Tetsuo: ? Sophia: ? - Fukamiya Hayato: ? (Espada's father) Yuri: Merklynn Shindai Reika: ? Shindai Ryoga: ? Bahato: ? Isaac: Isaac Storious: ? Legeiel: ? Zooous: ? Desast: ? Tassel: ? the Pagemaster My casting choices: KR Saber: Belmont Camelli/Lofton Shaw - Saber I: Jamie Lomas KR Blades: Hero Fiennes Tiffin Mei Sudo: Paola Andino KR Espada: Gavin Leatherwood - Espada I: Sia Alipour KR Buster: Geno Segers KR Kenzan: Nathaniel Oh - Kenzan I: Julia Chan KR Slash: Adam DiMarco KR Calibur: Georgina Reilly - Calibur I: Diego Luna KR Saikou: Najee De-Tiege KR Sabela: Phoebe Dynevor KR Durendal: Christian Howard (as Ken Masters of Street Fighter) KR Falchion: Reeve Carney KR Solomon: Hugh Dancy Storious: Luke Newton Legeiel: Max Lloyd-Jones Zooous: Stony Blyden Desast: Brian Hanford (voiced V from DMC) Tassel: Billy Porter |
Lol another window into fanfic madness
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Saber's coming to an end. Need something new to spice up this adaptation!
Anything? New names, bios to make. Some to be better than the originals at least to make up for how COVID ruined the series. |
More time in Wonder World (or whatever you want to call it) would be nice. After midway the series just focused more on the real world.
Also, I don't think it's fair to entirely put the blame on COVID considering how Zero-One still managed to be pretty good. |
What would be a suitable name for the "Evil Witch" as the main antagonist of Saber? Something to give vibes of Queen Mab, Maleficent (Sleeping Beauty), Ursula (Little Mermaid), Jafar - except he's a sorcerer (Aladdin).
That goes for if Luna's name should be changed. If there's anyway to give her the damsel in distress based on Disney princesses. In the US/CA version of Saber, the witch put her into a deep sleep, but her spirit based on her child self would guide Saber to his journey to her. But yes, we need more Wonder World as the real world does. |
Zero One managed to salvage some of its story from you-know-what, but I can't deny that the pacing was a total disaster, even before that happened. Kiramager was still early in its run, so it was able to adjust better and Saber had the benefit of starting during that period, so you-know-what can only hold so much blame for that. The green screen Megid base is the worst example I can think of.
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I question on what to do with the Shindai siblings - Sabela & Durendal in the adaptation. Either make them truly siblings or a couple - husband & wife? You've seen how Reika reacted towards Mei when she was at her brother and that ticked her off. Same with how Saber used Kaiji when she reacted angrily for using her brother's sword.
I'm thinking that while in the original Reika deceives Saber's comrades against him and is also the Smoke Swordswoman, in the adaptation the witch tricks Saber's comrades against him, while Sabela can be adapted into a so-called best friend of Mei's counterpart who's in turn a spy for the witch and at service with Master Logos. Got any good suitable names suitable for the witch villain? Sabela/Fabia: Fabia is a friend of Sami's, who's in reality the Smoke Swordswoman in service to Master Logos & the witch, joined with her husband in their service to them. Fabia deceives Sami in finding the Northern Base so that they can attack where they least expect it. Thought about that like in Ninja Storm with Thunder Strangers Part 2 with the Thunder Rangers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgCa2Oqwx0 |
Reika was the most unlikable and insufferable character in the show for me, as I couldn't tolerate how she tortured poor Sophia and refused to apologize. She even continued to do terrible things to Mei and Touma due to her unhealthy brother obsession. So I have every faith that Fabia will be a better character by default.
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Durendal/Caspian: Fabia's husband and one of the Sword of Logos' imperial swordsmen. Caspian comes from a rich noble family, as he and Fabia were married by their family's traditions. Both husband and wife were given the swords Kaiji & Noroshi as a family gift. Caspian’s family found them in an antique store.
I thought of Christian Howard to play this character since his time as Ken Masters in Street Fighter: Assassin's Fist. He'd be suited for the role. The counterpart of Durendal, I'm trying to work out is how to make him better than Ryoga. The Sentai crossover with him was embarrassing. Bringing along the Thunder Rangers - Hunter & Blake, was thinking of giving Durendal a Credo vibe, as he questions Master Logos' ideals like Credo slowly questioning Sanctus' actions in the Order of the Sword. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSQdLSs6Z4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0ytq1_Vik |
Slash/Ozzy: Ozzy is a young musician who's grandfather is a swordsmith. He created his own sword mixing it with a firearm. As the swordsman of sound, he listens to the voice of the sword on what they feel when in battle through victory, defeat or when they're nearing their time.
Blades/Lance Lionheart: Lance is the swordsman of water from the Sword of Logos. He recruits Trevor to join them and becomes a love interest of Sami. Saber/Trevor Pendragon: Trevor was born by magic from Wilhelmina Gothel. When he was born, his mother was killed by the evil witch after child birth. While growing up, as a kid, Trevor meets Clara who starts to develop feelings for as they share stories together. But things had changed, when Gothel manipulates Calibur to send her away from Trevor. Trevor vows to one day save her. His uncle Deacon was the first Saber as he leaves his legacy to his nephew. Wilhelmina Gothel: An evil witch from Wonder World who created Trevor through her magic, killing her birth mother in the process. She makes an alliance with the current Master Logos in her schemes to bring the people back to the "Old Ways". Gothel is also responsible in creating the Megid in her plans. Frik: An elf and Gothel's bumbling yet loyal assistant, who brought Trevor to Wonder World in order for him to become powerful in her cause. Yet despite the evil deeds Gothel has done to Trevor's life, Frik however is kind and loyal to Trevor no matter which side he's on. |
Wilhelmina Gothel has got to be the best witch name I've ever heard. Dunno why but the name reminds me of a classic witch found in fairy tales instead of the modern occultic witch you see on TV nowadays.
Also I'm very curious about this 'Old Ways' thing. |
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What I'm trying to go for is the evil witch is trying to bring Wonder World to our world. Because we read books and imagine what we read, even make up stories as we create them, they come to life in the other world and she wants her world and their kind never to be forgotten. There are 1001 Arabian Nights, Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories and such. |
I need help coming up with a good counterpart of Tassel. Anything like Saint Germain of Castlevania.
I love for his title be “The Pagemaster” - inspired by the movie. He’ll be born around ancient times like Arabia, as he’s the first man to discover Wonder World, becoming its Pagemaster who’ll carry out the stories of our world into reality. Any good names for Tassel/Victor? And what do you all think of the name for Saber? TREVOR PENDRAGON! |
Who wants to see Kamen Rider Ghost & Specter part of the Saber series? There's hardly anything good for Ghost as its own. As long as Necrom & Kanon Specter joins in somehow.
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For Solomon & the Megid's names
Solomon/Master Logos II/Kamen Rider Conquest: The second ruler of the Sword of Logos, who makes an alliance with Wilhelmina Gothel to overthrow the first ruler, so that he can rule the guild with an iron fist. He desire for power & rule is ambitious. Eada (Megid): Inspired by the Arabic word "alsafahat almueadala". Gothel creates them. Damea (Lesser Megid): Damea means "tear" in Arabic. Qisa (Storious)/Kamen Rider Epilogue: Qisa means story in Arabic. Qisa was born when the Arabian Nights was around during ancient times. Gothel brings him and the other two Eada to her side in order to take the "Ancient Book - (still trying to make an alternative similar to the Bible & the Never-ending Story). Sturia: Arabic word: makhluqua 'usturia for mythical creatures. Anat: Arabic word: alhayawanat for animals. What's a good name in the adaptation for "Book of Omnipotence"? Everyone fears the Bible will cause havoc for viewers, I thought maybe if there's any way to bring everyone to God again. Which names be better? "The Never-ending Story", "Book of Ancients", "Book of Ages"? |
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But anyway, Ghost, Specter, Necrom, Kanon & the Ganma should appear in the Saber series somehow, as Desast has appeared in them. As for the Sword of Logos, Saikou/Merklynn can come from the first group called "Sword of Ethos". For Falchion? I name him Azazel as his real name. Both Saikou & Falchion come from the Sword of Ethos a long time ago. The organization progresses time to time from Ethos to Pathos to Logos. I question how I'm gonna get Gekkou Raimeiken Ikazuchi of Espada's upgrade into the series? |
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And thanks for liking the name Azazel for Falchion! What are good names & surnames for the the riders?
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You all remember in VR Troopers when Ryan Steele narrates the lessons his dad Tyler taught him in every episode?
Well as much as Tassel narrates, I wish there was a way for Tassel’s counterpart - the Pagemaster & Trevor can reference every story writer/author on whatever quote/lessons we readers have learned in our lifetimes. Ex. CS Lewis once said…. Charles Dickens once said… Rudyard Kipling once said… |
Okay, I question how I'm gonna put Espada's new form and Falchion's new form into the adaptation!? The new immortal swordsman is Blades' dad.
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Wrong thread Sh Ranger
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Should Ultimate Bahamut be put into the series or no?
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I doubt you’ll have a costume for it, so I wouldn’t recommend it.
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Btw, with a lack of monsters, how about something original for the riders to face joining the Megid? Anything for the book theme like the Neverending Story, the Pagemaster, Chronicles of Narnia and such. We’d have a lot of cool sword fights between our world and Wonder World! |
Any ideas on how to adapt the four wise sages? Maybe as the “Four Wisemen”?
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