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Shinkocchou Seihou Kamen Rider Den-O Sword And Gun Form
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Confirmed for release April 2020! Plus a teaser for Gun Form!
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This thing is gorgeous. 10 bucks says Nega Den-O is the Tamashii Nations exclusive for next year.
Also hoping we get Zeronos, but I think that's more a matter of "when" and not "if". |
Oh no, I bet they're going to tease us with the possibility of having an entire line-up of all the Imagin transformed and Ryotarou (either Plat or Liner, or both!!) eventually. I need a Den-Liner so I can fast-travel to that future.
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Actually, word on the grapevine is that Gun Form is an armor set and will be included with Sword.
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That definitely makes it worth the price tag, god DAMN.
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Not necessarily. Parts-swapping gimmicks, if the customer actually uses them, run the risk of quickly wearing out a figure, and every swapped part presents another potential QC concern. People shelling out $80 for a new figure should reasonably expect it to be relatively sturdy.
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that looks really nice
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Consider this: a few years ago they announced a 12-inch transforming Den-O figure that never saw the light of day, and now a gimmick-based Den-O is revealed as the next Shinkocchou Seihou. Obviously it won’t be quite as advanced as this can only do Sword and Gun forms, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of their plans for that ended up here.
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Gun and Sword forms are ny favorite Den-O forms so this is definitely on my wishlist.
That said, I don't have any problems with the proportions on the old ones so if I can't afford this I'll just buy the old ones, which should see a decreasing price value on the aftermarket. Either way, win-win for me! :D |
Whoa this looks good 2 figuarts in one release nice.
Also I read that preorders open tonight is this true can someone confirm? |
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They could pull this out at the last moment but I think it's unlikely. |
I highly doubt it’s happening tonight. The Marvel/Star Wars drop is to coincide with Tokyo Comic Con, and we don’t have proper Bandai images for this yet.
So I’d say beginning of next month as usual is more likely. |
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Though I will be sad if its two forms in one, as I’ll have to get a second one just to display gun form.. which means $$$$ |
£65 is a bit pricey for me, especially as it means it'll have to go through customs. It makes me sad, but I think I'll have to skip on him. The choice is made easier though by knowing a Figure-Rise is happening.
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Confirmed to be a set! The special page on the Tamashii Nations website is up.
https://tamashii.jp/special/shinkocchou/ |
Awww.
I REALLY hoped they would ditch those additional split elbow and knee joints. Recent report here on the breakage of the new elbow joint on SHF SS OOO confirmed my worry about the weakness of those over-engineered joints. |
Thinking it over actually... I think this is probably the alternate forms set that annoys me the most.
Like, I'm fine with it for the Zi-O and Build stuff. Woz Finaly's forms and TankTank's turret thing are very minor stuff that are mostly for alternate attacks/finishers; and while Geiz Revive and Evol's forms are much more major, at the very least they never exist at the same time and unless you're a massive completionist you're unlikely to really want both at the same time. In all these cases, the downside of wanting to display the forms all at once is nothing compared to the upside of having a lot more display options. Very few people are likely to want Evol Phase 2 on its own and it's served much better as an optional set of display pieces than a separate purchase. ... but Den-O's forms are probably the ones that matter the most of any Kamen Rider forms. Gun Form isn't a super minor thing like Kiva Bassha or Wizard Water Style or Zero-One's Flying Falcon -- all four non-upgrade forms are treated as not just extremely important, but as completely separate characters! There's multiple times especially in movies where they even all appear together and have great line-up shots together and are treated occasionally almost as separate riders than as forms of the same one, and having the four together is extremely iconic. So this is definitely one of those cases where you'd want both Sword and Gun form rather than having them as separate display options, and more people are likely gonna want to buy this set twice more than they'd get Evol or Geiz Revive twice. ... I'm kinda not happy with this, all in all. |
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That's another letdown for me. |
As someone who never buys alternate forms - this is nice since I can swap piece and display the figure as I please.
But yes, forcing people to buy multiples sucks big time. Especially since you have leftover parts every time. Also, I still don’t get why it’s Sword + Gun and not Sword + Plat. |
Sword + Plat form would have been a far better idea, I agree. I think my big no-no here is "forms that can exist at the same time". That's why I'd be fine with, say, a hypothetical Flaming Tiger/Flying Falcon set (an idea that's so awesome it's guaranteed to never happen), but not Ax Form/Rod Form. At least with Plat Form, while it could potentially be neat to display it alongside Sword Form; they're at least things that never existed at the same time unlike every other Den-O form.
There is one selfish upside for me, though: I've long decided that my ideal Den-O display is Climax, Liner, New and Zeronos (Vega?). So this means they'll move on from the individual forms much, much quicker and onto these ones. |
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Granted I haven't watched Den-O in a while but Den-O's forms also don’t really appear together all the time. Quote:
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Remember Sword and Gun forms were the only Den-O core forms that were mass released in the SIC line the Rod and Axe form two pack was a unnumbered special edition. it in come weird way makes sense to back the parts for the most popular core forms together for this release.
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The original Figuarts too; I remember Axe and Rod form specifically being a 2-pack while Gun form got the single release.
Still... I feel my points stand. These forms are not minor enough to warrant the treatment of "alternate display option". |
The original figurarts releases had Axe form as a single figure event exclusive while Rod and Gun forms were a P-Bandai web exclusive.
Regardless considering that Geiz Revive and Evol have their alternate forms (excluding Black Hole in the laters case) as simple parts swaps this might just be the norm from here on out if the alternate forms are simple enough differences. I’m more surprised that they didn’t increase the price so to in clude the parts for Rod and Gun form. |
I feel like an idiot for not noticing this sooner, but I realized why Sword & Gun Form are one set: The back part of the armor is identical on both. This means they only have to include one of these pieces instead of two.
There's probably one back piece, two different fronts (Sword & Gun), plus a faceplate, belt-piece and shin plates for both. So Rod & Axe Form is another set, simply because they also only need one back piece since it is identical on both forms as well. This isn’t about which forms make sense to be sold together from a story or popularity-point of view, it’s to save costs on plastic and paint :lol |
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Sword has Axe on its back. Sword's chest flips open upwards to reveal Gun. Rotate Sword and you get Axe. Axe's chest opens up sideways for Rod. |
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Personally, I'm fine with it. What REALLY concerns me is the new elbow joint. What do you guys think about the new elbow joint? |
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One reported incident of breakage isn't enough to make me nervous, I've had Figuarts break at basic joints, it happens. It sucks regardless, but I don’t feel like doomsaying every figure that has it. |
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While with the new elbow joint, if that single pivot joint breaks, the forearm will be disconnected from the arm. Forever. What I'll get is not reduction in friction, but a figure with mutilated forearm. This risk of failure is inherent in the structure of the joint itself, not merely material or manufacturing defect. From engineering standpoint, this kind of single point of failure is unacceptable. Well, I guess I'll just wait and see. |
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April 2020 release, 8800¥, includes 7 sets of hands, alternate Gun Form parts (head, chest, belt, thigh-covers), 2 different Rider Passes, and finally: Separate DenGasher parts for the belt and one in Sword and one in Gun configuration.
Pre-orders go up next Monday, December 2nd in Japan! https://tamashii.jp/item/13110/ @Topic: I hope I can get this one... I actually missed out on pre-orders for OOO last time even though I was there the very second pre-orders opened :( http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1575031395http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1575031395 |
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Ugh...why do this and Vulcan need to drop on the same day... gonna have to prioritize Den-O and hope Fuwa either sticks around for a while or shows up somewhere else later on.
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Does anyone know what time the pre-orders for this will go live on AmiAmi and HLJ? I might have to stay up late tonight...
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As usual Hobby Search pre-orders are immediately done when I check there for anything I wanna pre-order from there and AmiAmi is giving me an access restriction notice every time I try to press the proceed to checkout button on there casue of how many people are using their site.
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Ugh, HLJ has Den-O and Vulcan still listed as available to preorder but every time I check out it says the stock or price of something in my cart changed and that I need to refresh the page...but nothing changes when I do. Frustrating.
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