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Hibiki I was on the brim of starting several times, it’s the one I look forward to immensely but need the final push to get into it. But I don't sweat it; sometime in the future I will feel like starting and get addicted. I know about the second half btw, I will still watch it. Decade - I actually don't want to watch this at all. The concept of the alternate reality Riders is repulsive to me. I don't like the idea one bit. This one I will watch last just to say I watched them all. Fourze I just forgot about? When I started my fall into the rabbit hole that is Kamen Rider with Gaim I immediately sought out the other Phase II shows to watch some more and out of all of them Fourze seemed the least interesting so I never watched it. Now I think it looks super fun and I will probably watch it when a Shinkocchou Seihou of Fourze gets announced. |
It's weird to see people say they've watched all, or most of these shows. I've technically only finished Build and Drive, but gotten a fourth of the way through OOO, over halfway through Ex-Aid and watched tiny bits of Gaim, Fourze, Den-O, W, Zero One, Zi-O, Ghost, Wizard and keeping up with Saber as they come out.
I guess I have issues committing to a show? |
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Personally, I feel like the best way to approach Decade is as a series of little anthology what-if's about the Heisei Riders (and also Black and Amazon because we ran out of Heisei Riders), and definitely don't treat it as a serious story in its own right. Like, even the show eventually pointed out it didn't work that well, you're not getting a traditional narrative out of this!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HT0Nx6hPkx...2BWar%2B25.png http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FLP5l7-Muu...2BWar%2B26.png ... also, despite having a very clear memory of watching this scene as part of a movie, it turns out this is the same movie with that Kivala, W Skull copy Dopant, New!Tackle, and Cyclone/Cyclone + Joker/Joker, which I always forget are all part of the same thing because none of that feels like it goes together at all. |
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This piece of trivia on riderwiki is absolutely sending me tonight, because
1. I love Kobayashi and everything she makes, but this is one of the most wrong things about Kamen Rider you could ever say in every conceivable aspect that I feel betrayed to my very core 2. Wait this is about W since when did Kobayashi have anything to do with W https://i.imgur.com/4xV7ehG.png |
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"Get these fashionistas out of here, real heroes bare their necks." - Kobayashi, probably.
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Am I the only one who doesn't really care? I like most things Yasuko Kobayashi has done and I will admit as I've said W is a show I just never really got, plus it is kind of Japan's decision how they wanted their show to be!
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And then came along Shinobi, proving that scarfs are a superior class of fashion accessories. :lolol
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They omitted the muffler, gloves and boots for Kamen Rider Black on purpose to differentiate him from the other Showa Riders, and that design aspect probably stuck around for Heisei Phase I. |
Should Den-O's other forms be classified as their own riders or just form changes? I mean, yeah they are still Den-O but each base form is still technically a different person.
Or are they only considered as their own riders when the Imagins transform themselves as their respective Den-O? |
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Anyone know all the Legend Rider noises programmed into the OOO scanner? It's surprisingly difficult to find videos on this. Best I can tell it has Kuuga through W; then 'Ganbaride', 'Dark Rider' and 'Kamen Rider'. I thought they'd at least have Accel with W being the latest series.
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Not to steal Kurona's gimmick, but I'm looking over the Hibiki page on the Wiki and there is a single sentence that is so unbelievably wrong that I feel like I'm being trolled. From the Notes section for Kamen Rider Hibiki:
"This is the only Heisei series without a female protagonist." I... what?! Akira! Hinaka! Kasumi! Midori! Hitomi! If they mean Women Who Henshin... Akira again! Shuki! It... it has the most female protagonists of any Heisei series to that point! |
Hey the Rider Wiki is filled to brim with dumb stuff. Especially the stuff in thier trivia section
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A large amount of people treat the wiki like some sort of authoritative book of laws and I it really bothers me sometimes.
I've definitely found errors in song lyrics and sometimes when there's no clear translation to something, it feels like it just came down to the author's preference. |
RiderWiki is an incredibly cursed website.
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The only wiki I check regularly was Ultraman, as it seems like it's an effort to make it into a decent encyclopedia.
Anyways I was wondering if Rintaro/Kamen Rider Blades is the first secondary Rider who completely gets along with the main Rider from the start without any sort of friendly rivalry or clash with each other at some point.............. and then I realized that Ibuki is the actual first. I could be wrong though, let's see...... G3 and Agito - Makoto gets along well with Shoichi but G3 considered Agito an enemy first. Ryuki and Knight - Lol Faiz and Kaixa - Double Lol Blade and I really don't want to bring this debate back again - nope Hibiki and Ibuki - Yup Kabuto and Gatack - Friendly rivalries Den-O and Zeronos - Yuto is a tsundere Kiva and IXA - Similar to Agito and G3 Decade and Diend - Kaito literally attempted to destroy the planet because Tsukasa lied to him W and Accel - Ryu is a tsundere OOO and Birth - This is interesting. Date gets along well with Eiji but they did clash during the betrayal, and Gotou is friendly rival to Eiji Fourze and Meteor - super tsundere Wizard and Beast - They get along well, but Nitou self proclaimed himself to be Haruto's rival so maybe or maybe not? Gaim and Baron - Lol. Even though they spend a lot of time in the show working together Drive and Mach - They get along but Mach did betray them briefly Ghost and Specter - Typical secondary Rider rivalry Ex-Aid and Brave - Typical secondary Rider tsundere Build and Cross-Z - They get along like married couple but often clashes with each other like a married couple Zi-O and Geiz - lol Zero-One and Vulcan - Friendly rivalry So yeah, after Ibuki, probably Beast and Cross-Z, Blades is not the first secondary Rider that gets along well with the main. But man it feels so refreshing to see main and secondary gets along immeidately, however there is a chance that Blades might clash with Saber in the future so who knows? |
So I was thinking a bit about the whole “who cares about the new power up, it’ll just get replaced or beaten soon.” I feel like this kind of attitude misses that the journey is important in and of itself.
Kamen Rider still has an episodic nature to it, and individual episodes and arcs can have emotional impact in and of themselves away from the overarching plot. |
I was wondering...Am I the only one to think that the essence of what was Kamen Rider during the Showa Period has been lost during the Hesei/Neo Hesei period?
I mean, when you watch Kuuga and Agito, it's kind of a small departure toward the Showa period but it still feels like it's close to what we got with the Showa Riders. I agree that some of the riders have that "built by the enemy" trope but I don't know...I wonder, how did we come from Kamen Rider - Black to what we have with Saber. I'm not too fond of huge teams of Riders... So...yeah...what's your thoughts on this? Am I the only one feeling like perhaps, Toei Animation has lost what made Kamen Rider interesting? |
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I know it's very subjective, but I genuinely do not feel this franchise could carry itself if it stuck to traditions just for the sake of sticking to them. |
Well while I'm sadly lacking in knowledge of Showa although I did love Black when I finally finished it, I don't know how common an opinion this is but I actually miss Kamen Rider from Kuuga-Kiva. For me some of those 2000s shows like Kuuga-Ryuki and Kabuto and Kiva just seemed more like what got me into the franchise years ago whereas more of the 2010s ones have just seemed a bit average to me, it may just be my personal bias or age though.
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Build was very Showa
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I used to think Kamen Rider was "supposed" to be a certain way or thing. I started with Stronger, Black, and Kabuto. I was blown away by the franchise.
Fourze had just started airing and I decided to check it out. I thought Fourze was absolutely fucking stupid. I was a dumb, angsty teenager, so the earlier shows clicked with me more. I could NOT figure out what made people like this show, and it almost entirely put me off of Kamen Rider. I didn't touch Fourze or any other Kamen Rider series until Fourze had finished airing. It left a bad taste in my mouth. I came back, powered through the show, and ended up seriously enjoying it. I binged every other series after that. I love that they're constantly trying to keep Kamen Rider interesting. I love how fucking ridiculously silly they can be. |
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If you wanna see a franchise that hasn't really evolved, just look at Sentai and its slow death as its earnings shrink from year to year. |
I see that Sentai has been slow to change but I do seem to be more in the mood for Sentai than Kamen Rider or Power Rangers at this point in time just for the fact I can watch the ones I don't like so much and still get some enjoyment out of it, whereas my ''worst Kamen Riders'' I probably wouldn't! I think also being as I've already completed the whole Kuuga-Decade quite a long time ago the only Kamen Rider shows I desperately want to finish are the Showa ones which can wait a bit of a while, whereas Sentai has a lot more obvious gaps in my knowledge.
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Don’t believe me? Let’s compare. Ryuki, Kabuto: Massive number of Riders, some of them confined to movies. The main two have a red and blue colouration and a Jerkass and nice guy relationship. The third rider has a gun as his weapon of choice, the dark rider is purple-coloured and wields a sword and the direct evil counterpart to the hero is an evil twin in a black version of his suit. There’s an unstoppable golden rider who has the source of his power stolen to give the hero his super mode, the monsters of the week become less and less relevant as time goes on, instead focusing on conflict between humans Kuuga, Kiva: Both focus on monsters attacking and killing people en mass, with a group fighting to stop them. Our main hero has a stronger red base form, a faster blue form, a gun wielding green form and a bulkier purple form, with all of his form changes activated by weapons. His super mode gives him the ability to use enhanced versions of all these weapons, and his final form is so unstoppable that the ultimate villain is an evil counterpart with the same unstoppability. W, OOO, Fourze, Wizard: We are introduced to an established universe where people are aware of the villains through the eyes of a newcomer, our hero goes through the first few episodes getting a crapload of new transformations, the Secondary Rider shows up at the beginning of the second quarter, around the time that he hero unlocks his Super mode and defeats the villain that has been mainly opposing him. Said secondary gets an arc that lasts a few episodes and is resolved with them getting an upgrade, at which point they revert to doing nothing for the rest of the series. The hero gets his final upgrade at the beginning of the thirties, at which point he bad guy decides to accelerate his plans for world domination. And finally, at the end of these series, the hero’s main ally dies in such a way that they can be revived, with all 4 of them not staying dead. And most obvious of all. Drive, Ex-Aid, Build, Zero-One: Our hero starts off being dropped into a setting that is already established to the characters in universe, the first few episodes focus on monster of the week action until one of the regular villains faces him down, a feat that takes two episodes and the acquire net of a new power to defeat. Eventually, the monster of the week format is phased out in favour of a recurring our opponent who beats the hero at every turn for several episodes on end. And when they do get put down, it’s not long before another recurring villain makes his appearance, or the defeat doesn’t last. All have secondaries who are turned against our heroes at some point. And most damningly of all, any themes the show might’ve had are tossed out near the end in favour of an “Ultimate Evil Rider” who wants to destroy the world or humanity for no apparent reason, with the emergence of the villain leading to the other villains getting redemption, no matter how unrepentant they were before. And the latter three end on a happy note, with everyone who died being brought back in some form. And all 4 then have post show content which spends as much time saying “our generic omnicidal maniac had SOME redeeming qualities”, no matter how out of place they seem considering their personalities. |
Build was a masterpiece! Too bad they insisted on the V-Cinemas, the series itslf was 10/10 while the V-Cinemas were obvious cash-ins (I mean, Build was already a living toy commercial but at least it had good plot). At least we got the awesome Cross-Z Evol suit out of it.
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... man, you really got me defending Kiva... |
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Gold Drive? I... ok, I'll give you that one. I think it worked better with the show's themes that the other three, though. Also was Chase brought back? And Mach and Drive never fought. |
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