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Kamen Rider Zi-O Episode 27- "The Beginning Of Everything 2009!" Discussion
Geiz is desperate to stop the awakening of Oma Zi-O. Woz however has another plan to stop the conflicting Riders...
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Well, we got some major plot updates regarding Sougo's dream and Swartz.
So Swartz is "working" with the Time Jackers.... And he deliberately gave Sougo his lifelong dream. I'm wondering whose side he's on. :eek: Woz & Heure buddy cop drama! :p Also, Woz's combat abilities are freaking awesome. Trapping Geiz Revive in his book and causing it to explode? Teleporting via his scarf? Woz is packed! :o And his usage of the BeyonDriver is pretty nice, too! And next episode (or sometime soon) we get DiEnd? AND a Geiz-Sougo teamup? Aw, man, I cannot wait! :D |
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Build up. I wonder if these cameos count per tsukasa contract . I know marvel doesn't.
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I just hope Black Woz becomes KR permanently removing White Woz in the process.
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Ok,
so Tsukuyomi actually acted like I thought she would. The previous episode was a misdirection. I'm starting to understand how they are handling this show. Woz becoming Kamen Rider Woz was cool. Well, I can't wait to rewatch it with subs. I just hope that Woz will keep the Kamen Rider Woz power. I don't know what to think about Schwartz... |
Wow a great ep that answers a lot of questions.
Swartz was the man in the black hat from Sougo dream that's shocking. He was the person who put everything into motion so he can become Oma Zi-O. Decade save all the children from the bus before the crash. Tsukuyomi wasn't firing at Sougo she was aiming at Swartz so she is still a good person. Best part of the ep is Black Woz took the belt from evil Woz and now is Kamen Rider Woz what a moment that was wow. I love when rider gives us a action pack ep like this. This is what makes me hype for more from Zi-O and the next ep look to be more plot and team up. Zi-O is doing really great so far I am enjoying the show a lot. |
I just hope Geiz will start calling Sougo's name from now on after.
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Hmm...Sworz is black-clothed man afterall. This really interesting twist...:D
I am really happy Black Woz finally can become Rider after he steal White Woz's Miridewatch with some helps from Hiryu Kakogawa (Another Zi-O) and Heure...:D White Woz is really angry after he lost his powers and White Woz angry scene is really fun to watch :D Hopely Black Woz will be permanently become Kamen Rider Woz :D http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1552797151 http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1552797151 |
Did Woz just "IWAE!" himself?!
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I actually pretty much loved everything about this episode expect for the 2009 mystery parts. A lot of my gripes from the previous episode have been alleviated but they've introduced new ones.
First off, I'm glad Tsukuyomi shooting Sougo was just misdirection. The mystery itself is actually very interesting but the execution of the scene just seemed super odd. Why does Hiryu remember Tsukuyomi yelling Sougo's name yet completely missed the shady dude with the black hat strangling said kid? He was knocked unconscious after Schwarz boarded. And like, how does Sougo not remember this very traumatic event? There has to be more to that. And of course, anyone's guess right now why Tsukasa was driving the bus. He's definitely not with the villains but his presence there continues to allude. And so I await part 4 of this arc to see if all my questions will be answered. But props to the writer for delivering a solid mystery with interesting twists. I'm intrigued by Schwarz's role and motivation to find the future king. Otherwise, awesome episode with some great drama. Sougo's uncle continues to be an endearing character and I got a satisfactory answer to Geiz's motivation. It's also an unexpected twist that Revive is slowly killing Geiz and that White Woz was manipulating him from the beginning. Black Woz and Wool teaming up to steal the Woz Miridewatch was great (though I thought the Miridewatch's were different than regular Ridewatch's?) and seeing Black Woz transform for the first time was hype. I love that his main weapon is his book. And White Woz just yeeted himself hard when he wrote in his notebook. I think the most interesting thing about this episode was it was barely about Sougo. Not that I don't like him, but it's nice to see the focus shift to the supporting cast for once. Action was awesome, as always, and I'm excited to see Geiz and Zi-O team up next week and pull out the Ride Armour's once again to take on Hiryu's Another Rider army. Wonder if next week will be the last we see of Another Zi-O. |
What does "yeet" mean?
Also, I think that we all knew that White Woz was manipulating Geiz. I mean, even Geiz doesn't trust White Woz. So, when you think about it, in the end, Schwartz is the one telling Sougo that he would become king....that's one hell of a paradox when the Time Jackers just want to get rid of Zi-O to put another king in place... Was it said why they wanted to do that? I kinda forgot...( it's telling you a lot about how threatening they feel to me...) |
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Hey everyone, guess what time it is!
https://i.imgur.com/LBrKYGN.jpg Time for Geiz to stop with the sweet one-liners before I fall more in love with him than I already am. Sure, on its own that's a pretty generic quip, but when the person saying it is a guy from the future living in the present talking about his past, which is also the future, I think it adds a certain depth to the joke. Look, just let me have my fun, alright? I was gonna do an imitation Woz speech to celebrate the real deal finally claiming his rightful place from his lame counterpart for the intro, but it turned out Kento Shimoyama and I are kinda on the same wavelength with these things. I mean that too. The quickest way to find out what I loved about this episode is probably just to watch it, because I honestly was watching every second with a smile on my face. So let's just start at the start, with what I'm calling the Super Cold Open. Mostly because of its behemoth length of barely under 5 minutes, but it's far more super than even that. Opening on Zi-O and Geiz fighting before Woz starts his usual narration was a extremely effective way to make it feel like this is a particularly special episode, and it only gets cooler when he stops right before making his actual entrance in the scene, blurring the fourth wall rather amusingly. We also find out before the theme song that Geiz Revive is, perhaps ironically, given its name, slowly killing Geiz. Which is awesome. I will never get enough of Kamen Rider powerups that have this kind of impact on the stakes of the story. Even if it ends up being a Sclash Driver thing where it doesn't serve to keep older toys in play, it still ups the drama factor considerably, and that's something Zi-O has been very, very good at these past few weeks. There's so much going on in this episode alone Geiz transformed 3 times! It's pure excitement the entire 23 or so minutes. Woz working his plans behind the scenes. The Time Jackers FINALLY doing something that could be considered interesting. Tsukasa doing... Tsukasa things. You name it, this episode has it. There's even a really great scene between Sougo and his uncle, adding that human touch that makes all the crazy time travel stuff that much easier to care about. Every time Zi-O has an episode that knocks it out of the park like this, part of me thinks it's destined to become one of my favorite Rider shows. I realized as I was watching this episode that I'm enjoying the current stretch of Zi-O at least as much as I enjoyed Build around this time last year (and if you've seen that show you know why this is a big deal), and while I'm not at all interested in debating which show is better, thinking about why I'd feel that way did remind me all over again how much I appreciate the variety of goals the characters in this show have. None of the Riders are actually on each other's side yet. The Time Jackers are starting to fall apart at the seams, and even Tsukuyomi and Geiz's desires don't quite line up anymore. This kind of soap opera stuff is an easy sell for me. It's actually the same reason I loved Lupinranger VS Patranger so much, too. More layers to the conflicts = more fun. |
It's like Zi-O gets better every episode to me. Shame on the people that compared Sougo to Takeru because I think Sougo is a far more interesting and layered character and he's definitely up there with some of my favorite Rider protagonists so far.
And I mean, I liked White Woz, but let's be honest....Black Woz is the one, TRUE Woz and I love that he actually got to become Kamen Rider Woz (even though it's obvious it would happen). I love how Black Woz found a loophole around White Woz's cheatbook that pretty much guarantees that it can't be used against him. Honestly, Zi-O is kinda firing on all cylinders for me now. |
I can't believe Murderyomi didn't murder all these children, what the fuck.
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Shwartz is intriguing me the most right now. I mean he's the one that set Sougo on his dream of being king and then he joins the Timejackers to replace Sougo. What is his end goal really? And Tsukasa being there, what was that all about? Other than to save Tsukuyomi is there a greater reason for him being the bus driver? I'm sure there is, what am I even talking about? |
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Loved the episode, really loved it, all the various plot threads from the start of the series are coming together to charge us forward into the final arc setup.
And I am loving it ! The timejackers flat out just existing so that the events of Oma will happen, and only Uhr seems to have picked up on something being wrong here and wanting to find out what is going on. Hora is not to be trusted due to how easily she betrayed Uhr in an earlier episode so her not seeing what is going to happen ahead of time or being worried is going to bite her in the ass eventually. And Decade is doing what Decade does and is already working out what has to be done. Then there is Geiz, who is not trying to defeat Sougo due to hate, but due to being his friend and honoring their promise, even if it kills him in the process. And Sougo, honestly he has become a pretty good character overall at this point, he is a very enjoyable main rider, and this season is doing what Decade was never able to really do, and the fact that Decade is part of the season and hopefully stays in the season makes me happy, because I god damn love Decade as a rider and character. Edit: WHITE WOZ ! Forgot to mention that his lovely little line about only the chosen would be saved which a few of us already figured when he first showed up, was that the Geiz Revive timeline is anything but positive. Also GO BLACK WOZ |
Okay, first and foremost: I loved how bored Tsukasa looked during Swartz's hijacking of the bus. That's our Decade, all right.
So I've fallen a little behind on this show, mostly due to complete apathy towards its plot and characters. Finally got caught up today and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. This whole Another Zi-O arc has actually been really interesting and this last episode in particular was especially compelling. I actually got really excited when Good Woz stole Crap Woz's powers. It really feels like the show is going to start addressing some of its own mythology finally, and I'm really getting into this. |
After actually watching this episode, I gotta say, Zi-Os getting good. Not that it's ever been bad, but it never did enough to make itself stand out from the background noise of "Anniversary Tribute" for the first few months. After a solid few weeks of exclusively Zi-O stuff, and good stuff at that too, I'm glad I'm still watching. As Fish always points out, Geiz's character is a lot deeper than I ever thought we'd get for the guy, and with Revive, plus WhiteWoz being very, very shady in that one line, I hope that gets built on more. Schwartz actually doing something also makes the Time Jackers relevant, which is cool.
Also, Tsukasa was on that bus the whole time and did nothing to stop it, meaning this whole show is Decade's fault. |
So the man in Sougo's dream was Schwarz. The hint that Schwarz did something to Sougo's dream that make Sougo wanted to be a king makes me think that the real Oma Zi-O isn't Sougo after all. I think the real Oma Zi-O need something from Sougo that require him to make Sougo wants to be a king and become Zi-O. Or maybe Sougo's dream is Schwarz's plan to change the timeline so that Oma Zi-O in the new timeline is on Time Jackers's side and Sougo didn't become Oma Zi-O like in Tsukuyomi and Geiz's timeline.
By the way its interesting to see how everyone here consider Black Woz is good, considering he's trying to raise an evil overlord lol |
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