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The Doctor Who Thread of Wibbley Wobbley Timey Wimey
I'm not sure how many Who fans are on this site so I'll make this and see what happens. So, anyway, discuss!
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Should have been called the thread of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff =p
I guess I'm not a super dedicated fan though. I had little experience of Who before its return with Eccleston. Watched that though and thought it was awesome, then sort of stopped watching shortly after Tennant started. Just didn't like him for some reason, then I got back in with the last of his specials and have been watching it since Matt took over. Can't wait for the rest of this season, especially now the babe that is Jenna Coleman is on board =D |
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Yeah, the rest of this season looks good. Especially with the wierd subplot. And Jenna Louise Coleman |
Aww, I made a Doctor Who thread back when Tokunation started and it barely got any love :( I hope this one lasts a bit longer :lol
Anyway Doctor Who is probably my number one fandom. It has been since I can remember, and my various other toy collections pale in comparison to my (mostly Dalek) Doctor Who one :D This year is going to be a fantastic year to be a fan because there's something for everyone. The second half of the current season is showing some real potential, there's the 50th anniversary episode to look forward, a docu-drama that's shaping up to be fantastic and a multi-doctor audio story. I can't wait :D |
Well that sucks Zeo, hopefully it will do better. With all the stuff going on this year I can't see why it wouldn't =] even if its just the three of us =p
The more I hear about the docudrama the more interested I'm getting in it. Sounds like it could be a really good watch. |
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I'll admit I've only seen a few episodes of the originals. Mostly Tom Baker and Sara Jane Smith. But I've watched every episode of the reboot of the universe, love me some Doctor Who. Christopher not so much, but David and Matt definately. I couldn't think of a better replacement for David than Mister Smith. And how fitting is it the enw Doctor's real last name is Smith :lol
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I got into Doctor Who when it first rebooted, and watched it most devotedly up until Syfy pulled the rug on us American fans and decided not to bring it over after season 4.
I'd wanted to watch it so much since... And just these past few weeks I have! I watched a bit of season 4 to refresh myself on where things were, then the David Tennant specials (of my 3 Doctors, who is by far my favorite), and am almost done with season 5. Been watching on Amazon via Prime, so I'll be able to finish season 6, but unfortunately the first half of 7 isn't free yet. So I don't know how I'll get caught up with that so I don't get too far behind once it starts again next month. |
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Fairly old school fan here; been watching the show since I was in high school, I want to say 1997-ish. |
I started watching Series 5 of New Who on a whim and ended up loving it. It still remains my favorite series by a longshot. New Who is generally good, but when it's bad it can get really bad, particularly during the RTD era.
Like ZeoRangerV, I love the Daleks the most. Of course, I don't know nearly as much about the Daleks as he does. |
My cousin introduced me to Doctor Who. I don't know what I thought it was before, but it was completely different than I expected. It was amazing. I think I saw the first two episodes of series 6 and then watched series 5 first. I went back and watched the 9th and 10th Doctors also. I haven't seen the old stuff, but I kind of want to. Daleks and Weeping Angles are my favorite and also the most terrifying.
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You know what was awesome? The Stolen Earth, The Wedding of River Song, basically all Doctor Who two-parters. I can't think of a bad one.
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Totally can now. Just watched the van Gogh. Thoroughly enjoyed that. |
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Daleks. In. Manhattan. |
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The Tenth Doctor had a great run, but it would have been great for him to have ended with courage and some of that cheekiness he always had. The Ninth Doctor did a great job of that, willingly giving up his life for Rose and joking about it at the same time. I understand that is the natural reaction for someone in that position, heck I would have refused to regenerate with all my power, probably screamed at Wilfred too. I was just hoping that after so much build-up we could see the Doctor heroically face death. I believe ZeoRangerV has other misgivings about these episodes, but this is my primary complaint. Quote:
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Comic... that was the point. Ever since the prophecy at the end of Planet of the Dead, the Tenth Doctor knew he was going to die. Cemented when in The Waters of Mars he went to far with his power. Saving people meant to die for the good of humanity. That was why the episode never ended with this huge climatic battle. Because it wasn't about that. It was about a man, knowing he was going to die, and not wanting to. Having to come to terms with destroying his race. Losing The Master and his final heroic act. And Wilfred. That was why Tenth went from era to era, place to place, on a goodbye tour. Closing old wounds, and his past, before moving on to the future. It also mirrored what David was going through irl. Not wanting to leave, but knowing he had to. Because he wanted to move on before it become a job.
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well I can now say that I am fan of the Who :lol I just watched episode 1 on Netflix so I will probably not have a life for a few weeks..... :lol
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That's a good explanation, and it's likely their intention in writing the episode. I just felt that despite all that, the script and dialogue seemed to indicate that the Doctor never came to terms with dying. He was dragged to the deathbed, heck, his last words were "I don't want to go". For me, perhaps if he went out like Harry Potter, who accepted death calmly even as he sacrificed himself to Voldemort to save his friends. THAT was an excellent metaphor about accepting death. In the end, I felt Ten was left hanging in his character development. He never really got over the fact that he was going to die, and destiny forced him to die. It's like they built up so many episodes about him coming to terms with dying, but it just didn't play out well in the last few minutes. Anyhow I just felt the idea was good but the execution wasn't as good. |
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Oh I will :p I'll be back after I finish work to write a more detailed post :lol
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Okay, prepare yourself for a rant to rival Matrix's one on Decade :lol
So The End of Time….where do you want me start? 1) Months and months of build-up and hype. You probably didn’t get this so much in the US, but over here it was constant news reports of how Tennant was leaving and how he was essentially the greatest thing to happen to the show blah blah blah. There’s nothing wrong with Tennant being your favourite Doctor (because he was great in the role up to a point, loved doing it and got a lot of people into the show) but the media made out that the show was in some sort of danger without him. And that notion is utterly ridiculous. 2) The horrible portrayal of the Master. Sure he was different the classic incarnations, but in season 3 Simm’s Master was the perfect foil to Tennant. Here? Gimmicky lighting powers, Skeletor moments and a rather blatant message about humans are gluttonous at Christmas :rolleyes and that’s before I get on to the subject of the sodding drums. The Master is supposed to be the Moriarty to the Doctor’s Holmes, but here RTD just decided “Screw it, he is the way he is because LOL drums.” The Time Lords are horrible people, but to make the Master a product of Time Lord machinations is a massive disservice to one of the Doctor’s greatest enemies. It’s going to take a LOT of undoing if they ever plan to bring him back again. 3) RTD’s necessity to rip off Star Wars every time he needs to pad an episode out. 4) Rassilon and his power glove. Name dropping someone like that deserves a little more focus than it actually got. 5) The moment where the woman looks at him for 2 seconds and the subsequent “OMG is it his mother? Is it Susan? Is it Romana?” debates. And then RTD revealing that he intended it to be his mother all along. Whut? 6) The Doctor’s death scene being ripped straight out of Wrath of Khan. Surprised Tennant didn’t say “The needs of many outweigh the needs of the few”. Months of planning and they can’t even come up with something vaguely original. 7) 20 minutes of character fanwank that could have gone toward improving the story. 8) Mickey suddenly being married to Martha when the two had previously had about 5 seconds of screen time together. What happened to the guy Martha was engaged to in season 3? If the plans had gone ahead to put the two in Torchwood then yeah maybe, but this just felt rushed and stunted. 9) Trying to pair Jack off with the guy from Voyage of the Damned, even just temporarily. Right after what happened in Children of Earth no less. 10) “I don’t want to go.” Yawn. I’m not going to rant about the Doctor’s childish rant about the world hated him (even though I hated it) because I guess it was good to see an incarnation react a different way to death. But Tennant’s Doctor went out like a spoiled child which felt completely unfitting for him. He had an undisclosed amount of time to visit the people he loved, and knew that a regeneration was coming for ages beforehand. He could have gone out with a little dignity. If you want to see how a regeneration should be handled, watch “The Caves of Androzani”. These are the only reasons I can think of right now, but I’m sure there’s more. Doctor Who is a show that’s been able to survive because of change, but End of Time just felt like it was pandering to an audience that didn’t want or was unable to accept it. Also if we’re still talking terrible 2-parters – Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel need to be added to the list. Thumbs up to those who said Daleks in Mahattan and The Rebel Flesh :D Also, thread name change for fun :p |
How come every thread around here always devolves to "worst [blank] ever"?
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I haven't watched The Caves of Androzani, but I hear it's an emotional masterpiece and the best 5th Doctor story, if not one of the best Doctor Who stories of all time. Quote:
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Off the top of my head "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" and "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead" come to mind. I like the episodes that work the angle that every once in a while, everybody lives. Of course, those episodes wouldn't work if the show normal didn't have a lot of death. PS I'm also a sucker for anything with Weeping/Screaming Angels. |
Empty Child/The Doctor Dances most definitely. Every character shines in that and I think its one of Moffatt's strongest stories to date.
Crash of the Byzantium/Time of the Angels was great too, if only because it like like an Aliens to Blink's Alien. I have a massive soft spot for Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways too - the first part is very silly (in a good way) but builds to a glorious climax and a solid last part that's only let down in the last few minutes. The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords is very similar in regards to the latter as well. |
I really, really loved The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang. It took a few watches to understand the nuances of it, but man those episodes remain fun to watch now.
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Favourite 3 parter: Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords. For these reasons:
1) Jack Harkness coming back and tieing up the loose ends from series 1. Anyone who complains about his not-death being a Deus Ex Machina needs to rewatch Bad Wolf and see what happens. 2)The return of the Master was handled really well. It took advantage of plots spread throughout the seires (Chameleon Arch, You Are Not Alone). John Simm himself was a really good Master, and his portrayal was excellent. 3)Overall, it was really enjoyable to watch, with the plot changes. Utopia was a bit slow, but the speed soon picked up. Also, I know this is going to go badly, but who is your favourite Doctor? |
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Recently I've grown the greatly love the Second and Third Doctors too, mostly because they have the wackiness of the Doctor (particularly the second) plus the heroism of a more innocent era. |
I was actually introduced to the franchise by the 9th Doctor so I have a soft spot for good old Christopher Eckleston. But David Tennant is also a huge favorite of mine, Matt Smith has just never really clicked with me. And it's not like the show is bad now, I just don't feel a special connection to his doctor.
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Guys... guys please. Spoiler tags. Please. Just in case.
I just finished season 5 last night. And I must say, I'm pretty much behind Matt Smith as a Doctor now. He's still not my favorite - seriously bow ties are not cool haha - but I'm okay with him. Perhaps a bit too needlessly eccentric at times as well. |
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I'd go with Matt.I think he's a nice balance of crazy but badass and serious when he needs to be.
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