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Kamen Rider Zero-One Episode 41- "Thou, Take Thine Neighbors' Hand!" Discussion
The Ark reveals a backup plan to regenerate its form as many times as needed. Aruto, once again taking up the mantle of President, must make a choice to stop this horror.
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Horobi replace arc as arc0 or there's more backup for teg arc?
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Welp, at least its one tiny step forward for Horobi
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While I still don't like that Aruto is back in his seat in HIDEN Intelligence, nor do I like that the direction with the Ark becoming this all-encompassing evil instead of just representing Metsubojinrai... I do like Horobi a lot! Maybe more than he deserves!
He's honestly mostly been static for the last 40 episodes, but I've never really needed a lot from him. I always figured and hoped from the beginning that they would firmly establish that his own genuine will is for humagears to completely replace humans, thus driving in his conflict with Aruto and AIMs, and then coming to blows to Jin over it. It happened a lot later than I would have expected, but I'm glad it happened at all. Speaking of Jin, wow, did he get clobbered left and right all day. I'm not surprised he lost to Horobi but I didn't think it'd be that one-sided! Assuming they don't somehow still change Horobi's heart, I'm speculating that he will meet his end at the hands of Vulcan, who's kinda been desperate for something to do during this final stretch (I mean so is Valkyrie but that's nothing new...). I would say that would even be a perfect showdown with history and conflicting ideologies behind it if the show hadn't went and said Fuwa's backstory was made up (hey i'm still not over that). Anyhow, even if Horobi does still somehow turn good before the end of the show, I wouldn't even be upset because at least they established that all his actions up until this point are his own. I always had a worry at the back of my head that they would just say 'the ark is the only reason he is like this' which would have been a lot less compelling. |
I was so happy when they got rid of the Ark because Horobi is a much more interesting final boss but - nope, it'll be back.
Great... |
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One downside of this scenario to me of course, is that it would break Horobi's streak of kicking butt without needing a new form. Still fun to picture though. |
I mean, Ark is quite literally the personification of evil. That’s literally what it was created for. It may be a boring villain personality-wise, but it represents the very essence of what Aruto has been fighting against.
Much like Gai not being automatically forgiven, I like that Horobi didn’t just suddenly turn good because he betrayed Ark. Freedom to decide does mean not every humagear will Just happen to decide what’s right. I also like that he’s still rocking the Forceriser this late into the game and keeping up with everyone else. Even Ikazuchi got a cool moment by betraying Ark in his own way. Naki is still a waste of space, though, and I don’t understand her inclusion. (And why Fuwa had a humagear AI in his head but Yaiba didn’t?) Also I wish Fuwa and Yaiba would fucking do something again. Rampage Vulcan is still super powerful and useful, and I don’t understand why Yaiba hasn’t gotten an upgrade. Do what every fan artist has done and have her use Fighting Jackal in her shotriser for a final form. I mean the show is still good but there’s little... rough edges that I feel could be ironed out. |
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I do like how they handled Horobi in this episode, in that his working with Aruto wasn't really a redemption but a rebelling against Ark so he could pursue his own dream.
I suppose his father-like instincts have just decided that Humans should all be killed to save all of his "children", the children being the Humagears. Cause, he makes a valid point that it's because of humanities evil's that the Ark was born, so if they continue to exist then Ark will come back in some shape or form. And because Ark things Humagears are unnecessary, well, yeah of course he wants to make sure things for his kind are well. Even if that means genocide. Also can I just say, like everyone's calling Ark just a boring malicious monster of al levil but this episode honestly did something great for me. It may be my interpretation but... this episode established the Ark as this petty piece of machinery that will throw away everything and throw a temper tantrum when it gets one-upped. "Oh Zero-Two beat me? I might as well just blow up shit to show he didn't win, and while I'm at it, screw the Humagears. They're also the reason he won so clearly I need to genocide the kind that have been helping me since the start. I'm not owned, I'm not owned!" It's honestly real great and I'm kind of hoping we get this eventually breakdown for Ark where it just goes full insane and angry at it's plans being ruined. |
Super solid episode! Horobi has always been one of my favorite characters in the show, and easily my favorite villain, to the point I think even saying "but his personality is kinda flat" is unnecessary. He's always felt very, very particularly constructed to have the ultimate one-track mind, to essentially be the personification of his own ideal of what HumaGears can be. "All according to the will of the Ark" is his sole defining purpose because having anything besides that glorious mission is nothing more than a pointless distraction.
But what if it was never really the Ark's will he cared about? Changing the why of his goal without changing the what was a smart choice to develop his character that I'm very happy to see, even this late in the game. Again, Horobi has always come off to me as a guy with a pretty thoroughly thought out and consistent ideology behind the whole terrorism thing, so having him betray the Ark because the Ark betrays those ideals is *perfect*. It's very organic, as is him acknowledging to an extent that Aruto's existence can benefit HumaGears without backing down on the "humans need to go" rhetoric. It's a great episode for him all around, and the scripts continue to do Takaiwa proud by making Horobi the continued (nearly) undefeated master of still having nothing but a base form. I love Jin too, but man, what was he even thinking, not just running away the second Horboi whipped out the ForceRiser? It'll be exciting to see where Horobi ends up in these last few episodes, admittedly a little because the Ark is just so darn uninteresting as a character, and I think that means extra coming from someone who considers Horobi's personality to be fleshed out. A huge part of what made Horobi feel defined was his pseudo-religious faith in the Ark, which means the Ark itself has even less than that. There's maybe an angle there with the fact that it was deliberately taught to hate by Gai, and is thus arguably loyally serving the mission humanity gave it like any HumaGear would, but it doesn't seem to be something the show is interested in exploring. As a plot device to bring out things in the rest of the cast, it's working a lot better, though, which is why I hope the conclusion of this show ends up having a few more layers than just everybody fighting Ark-One, even if the thought of some epic group shot of all the Riders in the show teaming up for the first time is, *admittedly*, extremely tantalizing. This is also a pretty great episode for Aruto, even if I'm not sure how he ended up at that warehouse for the climax! It's a very broad sort of development, not really caused by any singularly identifiable moment, but I'm still loving this recent version of Aruto that's clearly grown a lot more confident and mature after a year of crazy adventures becoming the head of company, losing that company, starting a new company, getting that company blown up... He's been through a lot, is the point, so this doesn't feel out of nowhere to me. Him returning to Hiden Intelligence is yet one more thing that muddles the themes of the show, but I totally see what they're going for. It's about him being finally truly ready for that seat after the time spent away, and I don't hate that idea at all. What's most bothersome about that scene is probably how not-quite-earned it feels for Gai, who explicitly told Aruto he's the last person he'd give up control of Hiden to, right before his chat with Ai-chan and subsequent change of heart. I see all the dots, but they didn't come off as connected quite right to me. Like that should be a WAY bigger moment for him than it's played as. Even then, though, it didn't at all take me out of what was otherwise a fairly spotless episode of Zero-One. I mean, discount Ryuuga went into space to blow up a satellite like a macho action flick. I'd slap myself if I couldn't just sit back and enjoy that kind of awesomeness! |
So, we have a last minute secret guy contacting Jin, and Azu is coming too?
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I really enjoyed the callbacks to some of the Humagears. Really glad the firefighter one was re-built.
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Horobi - Exterminate humankind and allow Humagears to reign supreme. Gai - Exterminate humagears and allow humanity to reign supreme. Ark - Exterminate everybody and everything to where only the Ark is left. It also makes sense when you consider that Ark is the twisted embodiment of Aruto's ideals. Where Aruto believes in peaceful coexistence between humans and humagears, and where Jin comes to the conclusion that humagears need humans for their own personal growth, Ark is a machine that learned literally nothing from humanity other than how to be evil. |
No one is talking about the preview of the next episode? I do not normally get attached to humans, or humanlike characters; but damn.....I have a weakness for izu.
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Amazing focus episode for Horobi! He was always my favorite of the hax0rs. I was rooting for Jin to knock some sense in to him but not even Burning Falcon is strong enough to win against Horobi's experience. I figured he had his own reasons for following the Ark and not just a puppet since it was established that he reached singularity a long time ago due to his affection for his son and he just wasn't aware of it on a conscious level. However, I didn't expect him to continue his crusade against humanity even after forsaking Ark. It reminds me of Adel refusing Takeru's friendship. His choice clashes with his parent type programming as destroying humanity isn't something a parent would do but then, destruction is literally his name. Maybe he's not ready yet to accept his role as a father and wants to be something more than what he was built for, since having a dream is important for people to make their lives fulfilling. Like Gai, Horobi was made from bad experiences and has become misguided in his intentions as a result. I still believe he can be redeemed and shown a better way. Interested to see if Isamu will give Naki some good advice after his change of heart towards HumaGears. He's on the right path now but Naki still doesn't have a dream or even know what to do anymore due to Ark stealing her singularity data. Considering that Isamu is this year's epic speech giver, I hope he can say something good here. The soundtrack during Zero Two's and Horobi's teamup against Ark Zero was pretty dramatic. Last episode was like a climax with Aruto rising like a hopper from his defeat and becoming stronger and this episode is like a transition for Ark with his destruction and upcoming revival, going from Zero to One. Not sure if One can beat Two but with Horobi leading the crusade against humanity, the two sides are divided in Two which is a perfect opportunity for One to conquer. So Two needs to become One to beat Ark One. |
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