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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Hibiki
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11-05-2020, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
FreshToku
Shuki was just Kiryu from Blade but worse.
Yeah, god, she
really
was. In... in basically every way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
FreshToku
Just because it's on my mind, I feel like saying that this and several others episodes also had me thinking along the lines of how certain stories doesn't feel right for the show, but I've also been wondering if that's more of a 'me' problem. You said before the retool phase that you wanted to judge the next phase as the show as it's own thing, as the new production staff and writer are free to take them in whatever direction they please. I thought I ought to try looking at it that way too.
It's just that for me personally, that's maybe impossible? It'd be one thing if the show really did go all the way in presenting itself as a full-on reboot or new interpretation, like a new Spider-Man or Green Arrow show or something, but the second half of Hibiki is still working and building off the context and relationships that the first half built. Having the character face weirder and more outlandish Makamou threats, that's fine and I can live with, but having them act just a little
off
from what I expect, like in this episode, sticks out a lot more to me, in a bad way.
I mean, I'm not sure I'm trying to treat the two phases as entirely separate shows, so much as I'm trying to give the show space to make adjustments. It's, like you said, impossible to completely ignore the first 29 episodes of story. But I think it's okay to be open-minded with new directions, to let the story go into unexpected territory. It's just, you need to
tell that story
, and so much of what's in 38 just
doesn't
? I don't feel like the Todoroki or Zanki in that episode match what's been onscreen, and there's no storytelling to get them to this new place. It's unsupported and random, and the only way it works if you've never seen an episode of Hibiki before.
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FreshToku
Not that you can't write a compelling story with all that, but it didn't sit right with me how the new staff looked at the one and only female character who is physically involved in the fighting, and decided what they wanted to write is to question whether she should even be there and raise the possibility of her quitting altogether. Yeah, maybe that's a really uncharitable reading on my part, but I was getting reminded of Poppy and Nico. Sure, there might 'story' justifications for these characters to get side-lined in all the action compared to the guys, but it's still not a good look!
That part didn't really bother me. If anything, I appreciated that Akira Deciding Not To Be An Oni is given so much weight on the show, treated as
such
a big deal. She's looked at as the next generation of Oni, so her feeling like it might not be for her becomes a story that's equally about Ibuki's failures as a mentor as it is about Akira's wavering commitment/existential crisis. It's the one thing in this episode that worked for me!
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He’ll be in charge of the next show, Masked Rider 35th Anniversary Project, or to call it something more well known, Kamen Rider Kabuto.
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Sh Ranger
This arc is a preview for what kind of OOC nonsense you can expect from Kamen Rider Kabuto so you might have some problems with that.
Uh oh!
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