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08-05-2019, 08:31 PM
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Fish Sandwich
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So I just wanna briefly get out of the way my thoughts on the latest set of Taiga episodes before moving on to the R/B movie:
- This show is a real bummer.
- The audio dramas are mandatory listening at this point. I'm actually looking forward to hearing the conclusion to Titas' story than I am the actual next episode.
- Like, seriously, the attention to detail is consistently impressive too. Did you notice the title for this one is written with a filled-in "★" instead of the "☆" that The Ultraman's title usually is? Because I didn't until a YouTube comment helpfully pointed it out for me. This isn't even the first time they've gotten clever with the title.
- Also, Titas is best Ultraman.
Anyways, the R/B movie. I still think X's movie was the most all around solid of the post-series films we've been getting. Every one since feels a bit too cluttered in spots with how they're written. However, the upside of this is that they've also been getting progressively more in-depth stories, and this was the best one yet. The human drama with Katsumi was
exceedingly
grounded and relatable in a way you can't get from any Ultra show other than R/B.
The core of the story here is very solid, and I like a lot of the individual elements too, but the problem with them, just like in the rest of these movies, is that that's all they are. Singular little moments that never fully connect to the main plot in a satisfying way. Take Riku for example. The scene where him and Asahi have a chat is great, and makes great use of his unique backstory to contrast him against R/B's cast, but beyond a brief callback towards the end, it just doesn't pay off. That's also why Grigio is fairly unsatisfying. It doesn't feel like the culmination of anything because it isn't. Asahi doesn't have her own B-plot or even an arc here, so I think the scene where she transforms playing it up like some huge feminist moment was supremely ill-advised given the nature of the story demands she can't actually do anything too exciting, because there's a million other things happening all competing for attention.
So narratively, it's a bit of a mixed bag, but the stuff that works does work well. Although frankly I'm glad my first exposure to Tregear was in Taiga. His central gimmick of toying with people's sense of morality is established here, but he came off more like a discount Khan Digifer from Gridman with how he felt the need to work with some dumb emo kid. The character we're seeing on TV right now somehow seems above that to me.
All that being said, it's time for my regularly scheduled disagreement with Kiwami:
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They had a powerful moment with Asahi declaring that her gender won’t hold her back in fighting alongside her brothers, they have an epic transformation scene for Ultrawoman Grigio - and then she's just the cliché, cutesy "I can’t fight all that well and I’m clumsy too, hihihi" token girl hero character.
Obviously I wasn't a huge fan of how Grigio was handled here either, so I understand the desire to see her do something cool, but I think it's worth pointing out that Rosso and Blu are
also
clumsy and can't fight too well. Obviously they get their moments and Asahi didn't, but a huge part of R/B's identity as a series was showing Ultramen acting goofy. The very first scene of this movie is Katsumi with his head stuck in a building.
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Then... Groob. Why wasn't this one a suit? The design is great, all the Minato siblings joining together is genius, but it being all CG ruined it. Don’t get me wrong, the short chase sequence with Tregear was great, but after that the effects were just terrible. It looked awful when they had Groob interact with real life objects.
And this is just... I mean, are you sure about this?
You can go frame by frame on that handshake and see Geed and Groob's hands touching almost perfectly. The CG was
astonishing
by the standards of these things. Tell me this doesn't look like a suit:
For f***'s sake, they straight up modeled in
wrinkles
where the material on a real suit would be liable to bunch up! Check out that armpit!
Ordinarily, I'd be the first to complain about bad CG, but they seriously knocked this one of the park. If your eyes weren't fooled, than that's that, and I can't argue, but if you can look at that shot of Groob smashing through those buildings and immediately see
a big green cylinder going through them instead
, I feel a bit sorry for you.
That clip I linked to talks all about how how they specifically decided to make Groob all CG to push what they could do with mixing digital and practical effects, and while there's always going to be growing pains, we're already
immediately
seeing this experiment pay off every week on Taiga. So please consider cutting Groob some slack? If they had decided to use a suit, you wouldn't have half the cool action in that show.
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