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08-30-2019, 09:57 AM
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Yarlick
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Sorry, but I had to step in...
I come from an era where RotJ was still a hit, and where people were hyped by a new Star Wars movie : TPM.
We were in awe when watching the Podracer race or the fight against Darth Maul...We also hated Jar Jar Binks and thought that Yoda looked like shit.
The prequels weren't all that good but they narratively told you a story.
Even if they were bad, merchs and goodies were going full speed because it was Star Wars, and you had Lucasart with the amazing Dark Force games.
The EU made Star Wars more than a story, it was a legend, a universe where you could be someone in this huge place, where awesome stories and awesome characters were created.
Disney killed all that because "meh"...Disney and Kat Kennedy killed it all because they wanted to create their own Extended Universe.
They did an Episode VII that was good with JJ Abrams but some people thought that something was wrong, people complained that it was too similar to A New Hope.
Episode VII was kind of telling you a story, Luke Skywalker was gone, the New Republic is now a resistance because the Nazis stroke again....
I defended the movie a lot because even if things were similar to A New Hope or the Phantom Menace, the movie told you something different.
But...Episode VIII was just utter trash, not because of Luke Skywalker, but how the movie was constructed, what Ryan Johnson with Kathleen Kennedy's approval was trying to do.
I can't believe that Johnson was a Star Wars fan with the way he butchered the universe.
Leia going full Mary Poppins is stupid.
The story with the fuel is stupid aswell, that pursuit dragged for nearly an hour and to what end? To see someone you know nothing about that acted like an asshole in front of the viewer sacrifice herself to save the resistance.
It was litteraly the BattleStar Galactica movie but in worse
I like some parts in this movie, like what happened in Canto Bight, the fight against the preatorian guard or even seeing Luke.
But GOSH, Luke HIMSELF was Out of Character! The guy saved someone that was well beyong saving by bringing back to the light, and a single touch of darkness in his Nephew and he goes batshit insane.
That's not how the Luke we knew from the EU acted.
I would have preferred to see Ben Solo being seduced by some Dark force that would explain why Luke would lose his renewed Jedi Order than turning partially to the Dark Side just because that kid was afraid of getting killed! ( like a Force Projection of Palpatine/Snoke or whatever, Marka Ragnos)
A lot of things are wrong in this movie and that's not because Luke died that I'm pissed at Lucasfilm/Disney.
Rogue One was good, how could they failed a numbered episode?
Episode 7 was a hit, whatever what people can say, because merchs and goodies sold out. But that's not the case starting with Episode 8.
You can still find old Black Series figures from Episode 8 at discount, and they are NOT selling, the Solo figures are barely selling aswell. And Tamashii Nations slowed down the releases of Star Wars figures.
They also have NO new prototype to present.
Medicom with the Mafex Line dropped the ball, they're not doing anymore Star Wars action figures.
The new extended Universe is barely keeping the franchise alive because only the Thrawn stories or even the Vader stories are working.
The Episode IX trailer had a false hype with that "Dark Rey" shit.
That goddamn trailer made you watch more than 1 minute of old episodes while telling you strictly NOTHING about the movie.
I'm holding my judgement about Episode IX but seeing that its foundation is Episode HATE it will need more than 2 hours to repair the damage done by that garbage.
I was a huge Star Wars fan, but knowing that it's Kat Kennedy at the head of Lucasfilm is not reassuring to me, she needs to be gone.
Having an Obi Wan Kenobi series? Great, people asked for it...riiight, but are you really interested to know what Kenobi did during Episode 3 and 4 while already knowing that he kills Maul for good? What's the point? We don't need to know or to be told everything or else you'll just hurt the original narrative.
You would have told me that there was a series like this years ago, I would have been happy, but nowadays I'm not.
The Mandalorian? Heh, I know nothing of it, but knowing that Favreau is behind it....Meh no thanks, I'll stick with Boba Fett still being alive by being clever.
Star Wars is at a semi dead state, and if Episode IX is as bad as VIII, it will kill Star Wars for good.
Sorry for this rant.
This was emotional, and we are all Star Wars fans, all of our opinion matters because they can elevate the level of the debate. But there are bound to be some walls when the Sequels didn't work for the oldies.
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