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dreamcastegirl Watched All of Kamen Rider Ryuki and Now Hates Herself
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Well, fair enough, if you give the same treatment to people like Shoichi as Shinji too, and you claiming to do the same for any of other Heisei Riders sans title. Probably at least, it's not a double standard for Shinji and others. Are you showa stan basing from strict Kamen Rider criteria? Though you brought up "Oh, dreamcastegirl is only into sociopaths" or about opinions of working or not, sorry, but like above, with my disdain for double standards, I'll fight against double standard treatment for characters or stories, like the mindset of thinking that "anything that isn't toxic is unrealistic", and toxic is the only way to make characters non-onedimensional, or that morally ambiguous can be very one-dimensional when the author only gives him/her toxicity and nothing else. And those who claim on something as bad because of it not being their type (people can express something not working on them without bashing it), where it can be their problem instead of the series' (like of course, those who think fantasy medias like KR are bad because it being fictional and unrelatable). Everyone has a right to
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an opinion, but those opinions are open to criticism and debate.
What I'm explaining was everyman character archetype, and those aren't only restricted to "protagonist of a kid's show", everyman character type exists in non-kid (or rather, family friendly for KR series) medias, like Die Hard.
Lol, Kanzaki has a "tatakae!" meme, that isn't clear enough of Kanzaki informing the participants? Where if they "tatakae" and win the fight, they'll gain the wish as a last Rider standing, and him choosing specifically morally ambiguous people at best because they'll have less restriction to kill. But of course nobody knows if Kanzaki himself also participates in Rider War using Odin as his representative, and he intends to win his own war (killing the 1 last other Rider with Odin) and take the wish by himself. Especially with Odin's immortality other than his overwhelming power, where he uses puppets, and if other Riders are lucky to kill Odin, then Kanzaki can just replace him with other puppets, fitting a Phoenix theme. Kanzaki asks for 12 other Riders in fight because he needs to collect those 12 Rider souls to grant 1 wish. The other Riders are just pawns for his own needs.
Well, so you don't follow medias like Ex-Aid too (I would still want for anyone not to be just purely ignorant for informations that are given to them about something that they don't follow - like it can be an introduction) - though because of not knowing that I've given a big spoiler for Ex-Aid! I'd like to know what media have you followed before continuing the discussion about pragmatic villainy, because really many stories can make villains not doing something horrible not out of kindness but out of their best interests, and I can't commend those acts. I haven't watched Amazons yet, but from what I read, it seems that Jin is similar to Gou/Mach from Drive, with both having unconditional hate for only the monsters species of their respective series and kill any single one of them, but not at all for humans (Gou will kill those who work for Roidmudes though).
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