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dreamcastegirl Watched All of Kamen Rider Ryuki and Now Hates Herself
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02-08-2021, 07:33 AM
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dreamcastegirl
Deadbringer, I'm not sure if I'm reading your post right, but it comes across as you being upset with me for not liking the shows you like, in which case, uh, I'm sorry? Calling me ignorant isn't going to make me warm to your opinions though, in fact though I agree that everyone has a right to opinion, and there is a right to reply to those opinions, if you feel I'm "ignorant" just because I'm not following a reference you made in passing to another show, I feel like I'm within my rights to disregard your opinion because not only does this come across as rude, but you are also not explaining your point, and then acting upset when I don't share the same points of reference as you. I'm not going to go away and watch
Ex-Aid
or read Marvel comics just to have a conversation with you about
Ryuki
.
I don't know if I would utter wrong words again bv mistake here, but...
Well nah, just to explain, I'm not being upset over that, if I'm actually upset here, it's about a villain's evilness being downplayed, as this is something that can lead into baddies getting away scot free. Actually I acknowledged it more that you said you just dislike the archetype, and that actually you think of the same as the other Riders like Shouichi, not only Shinji. I like Asakura too for him doing outlandish things that make him resemble a monster, and his trickery to gain upper hand using surprising cunning side, but I ought for anyone not to downplay those characters' evilness (including those sympathising with them). Also of course I won't ask you to go away and watch or read those medias for this conversation, but to take into account for the examples I gave even if its a media that you don't follow, me too if I wanna know an example of media trope I often found those that comes from a media I don't follow, either in Internet writings or info from others, but I would still use it and see a resemblance in it to a media I already follow. I had wrong/too harsh word choice for "ignorant" to address about that, sorry, I'd like to know a way to address this in less rough way.
And I didn't specifically refer to you for being ignorant, it's for other people on internet I've met who holds these views, I mean, I talked about something like people in other places declaring any fantasy media as bad just because of them being fictional, or those that declare a media for being bad because of it not having action (yeah probably action is their flick, but doesn't mean any medias without those are bad). Anyone have rights to like or dislike something, but here I'm talking about the reasons of why they like or dislike. This part is also directed for the opinion talk, rather than Ryuki, and I'm not any pissed about that, just want to talk about this for a reminder, as I've met other people who treats their right to express an opinion where it means “Nobody can disagree with me.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dreamcastegirl
I am aware of the concept of a "everyman" protagonist in literature, I simply don't care for it within the context of
this
story. Also, I'm not sure where you got this opinion about my only liking "toxic" characters, literally we were just talking about how one of the main reasons I disliked
Ryuki
was that there are no Kamen Riders in a traditional sense in it.
I'm getting this from here (though yeah, admittedly, the last part about claiming actually broken inside from liking Iyu did make me jump on conclusions):
Quote:
Oh, I liked him too, and I didn't like
Amazons
as a series
at all
, but I liked Jin, I got where he was coming from. I worry that after confessing this, you're going to go away with like, "Oh, dreamcastegirl is only into sociopaths," but I promise I do like wholesome characters too, lol.
Although, having said that, the only other character I really liked in
Amazons
was Iyu, so maybe I am actually broken inside.
And I had to clarify, for my talk like about something against double standard, I didn't refer specifically against you. I'm just informing (of course I wouldn't know if others already know this, sorry) about that there are actually mindset on internet in other conversations by other people that do actually claim, directly or not, about being toxic is the only good way; the only relatable way, only interesting way, only engaging way (some thinks character development is merely about bad natured people changing as better person), only realistic way, etc.
And some people seem to only count backstory needed to be filled with tragedy that left the character angsty,... Ironically actually people tend to forget the more realistic or non-tragic backstories
. I had to clarify that it's not you that I specifically refer for this, sorry. To sum it up, for that reply I was talking in a general sense (except for Kanzaki explanation), not Ryuki sense.
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