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Kamen Rider Die watches Masked Rider Ryuki
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04-09-2020, 09:10 AM
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Kamen Rider Die
Yeah, I sort-of figured that Ren wouldn't care too much about Yui's feelings of responsibility. That whole exchange, it's what I wanted to see way back in the Ren Has Narratively Convenient Amnesia two-parter. For all of the ways that he's suffering to save Eri, he doesn't seem like a dude who plays the blame game. He knows it's Shiro's fault, so he's not going to let Yui throw herself under that bus. Ren... I'm
really liking
Ren in these few episodes, with him feeling like a more emotionally healthy member of the team.
Well, Ren is more "emotionally healthy" member because he's aloof and pushes other people away from him, meaning that he doesn't have much to care? There are only few people he actually cares like Eri and Yui. Shinji's kind of growing but still hostile. And there's still a scene of him totally breaking down over Eri in the episode at night. So the lesson here might be that... to be more "emotionally healthy" you should be more of a scoundrel (or even worse, full villains who just don't care about anyone, therefore he has no time for feelings). Actually by that, what I asked was how someone like Ren didn't show any animosity towards Yui ever? From the beginning of the series to present unlike to Shinji (Eri is his fiancée so it's obvious).
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
It's a great running joke, and I'm so glad that Ren has an
itemized bill
for Shinji, instead of just making up higher and higher amounts. There's a dedication that Ren has to being an asshole to Shinji that is, to me, no less heroic than his actions as Kamen Rider Knight. These two torturing each other forever? I mean, that is some Relationship Goals right there.
So even if the debt is an actual responsibility, all of the torturing scenes like this one has no real animosity?
O̶h̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶A̶u̶n̶t̶i̶e̶ ̶c̶l̶a̶i̶m̶e̶d̶!̶
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
(Shiro made Shinji live the entire series over again so he could undo his fight with Yui, I guess.
I super hated this episode.
I wish it had just been a clip show. This was way more frustrating.)
It a shame that you don't like this one, where I liked it because this is a recap episode that isn't an actual recap and is a part of the plot. Probably this won't change your mind because the outcome's still the same ("not what I wanted") but even if it didn't change, it's still actually about Shinji. Shiro rewinds time back to the past to save a childhood picture of Kanzaki siblings, but for Shiro, it inadvertenly has an unwanted side effect in a form of Shinji, and this will last. Shinji is Shiro's biggest obstacle in the war, more than just him wanting to stop the war, is that him being a total wild card in the war - the reason Tezuka called him unpredictable fate-wise and passes his quest to him, mainly because he's not a chosen Rider, and it really shows in this episode.
Unlike the other Riders who proceed the same, Shinji has memories of the previous timeline ingrained to him, although only temporary (creating an intense version of the trio scene at ep. 2, Shinji asking millions of questions that can't be answered). This drives him to make some attempts to change the war, like warning Kitaoka that Asakura is going to escape and become a Rider and that he has to prevent it, this can be considered his attempt to save Tezuka and Shibaura (unfortunately though, he was talking to debut Kitaoka), after he forgets when trying to warn Ren and Yui before (and this may also save Sudo if successful). Didn't you appreciate Shinji's effort to stop the Rider War before despite how impossible it is, why not here? Then he tried new methods instead, where it's to keep an infinite number of notes for something Rider War related he remembers before he loses the memory of it. Yeah, it was only a reminder about Odin's fighting style, to punch behind when a gold feather appears, but it's a symbolism that Shinji can fight against his destiny, and he's the only one NOT helpless against the war and Shiro's shenanigans, especially that he has found a method before (ex: to keep remembering Rider War events), Shinji has now become a
permanent nuisance
for Shiro in Rider War, not just in that one rewinded timeline. Shiro's gonna be
especially wary
of Shinji if he tried to pull that kind of stunt again, the small change of Ryuki punching Odin and doubled burden of Rider's death to fuel Shinji's determination is just a start of that. And would like to bring up something from ep. 26 again, as he said here, he still vows to protect other Riders (they are also people)
And I still want to talk about this, your hate here aside, the debut for my favorite Rider in all aspects of Ryuki, Odin. Cronus' debut from Ex-Aid is similar to his. Both being the main antagonist's Riders named after a god, beating up every present Riders effortlessly while abusing their powers (flash step for Odin, time stop for Cronus), and they are accompanied by their own giant clock as they do their respective time powers. Odin's another one with a staff as his card scanner, it's clearly shown how Odin summons his staff for him to use but... how did Ouja summon his staff and have it disappear afterwards? It works like summoning Advent weapons perhaps (ep. 17 Gai)? Also they don't seem to use the staff for combat.
BITCH SLAP!!
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