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Kamen Rider Zi-O Epside 49- "Apocalypse 2019!" Discussion
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08-30-2019, 06:26 AM
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I liked how the old final bosses got a couple of scenes showcasing their powers. Evolt's suit acting was great too. It really gave the sense that Oma Zi-O was powerful when he beat them, rather than the usual we often get with returning suit villains in that they just feel like grunts.
They really should have given Swartz a second form or something though so that Grand could beat him before he uses that. It's weird how Grand gets all this build up and in the end pretty much accomplished nothing relevant aside from beating Another Zi-O II (Another Den-O and Another Drive too, but could be beaten just with standard Rider Armors...)
Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi really feels like a last minute addition. She only appears in two scenes, with no actual battle choreography, which easily might have been added after the fact, alongside with tweaking Tsukasa's plan.
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I'm really looking forward to the movie just to see what kind of insanity from Zi-O is in store that simultaneously needs to be 'theater-worthy' but also can't actually affect the show's status quo.
The movie actually changes the status quo quite a bit and is presented as an ending of its own, it's just that the epilogue is really vague so some people believe there might be some timeline reset going on there to make things fit (especially due to Geiz's line about Mach in the tv show), but the movie itself doesn't show that clearly.
Even in Japan, looking at 5ch, people are debating about where the movie might be placed (During the show? Unrelated AU? The end of the new timeline? Funny thing about the last one is that the world split would be undone in that case).
Since in the movie the Quartzers were pushing the same fusion of worlds plot, but intending to recreate the worlds, but the recreate part is stopped and then the world is just left as it is.
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This is more a personal disappointment but I am bummed that we never got any returning actors from Kuuga. Here would have been a perfect place to have that cameo. As a finale to Zi-O it has its own set of problems, but as the end of the entire Heisei era in a show dedicated to bringing back legends? I know its a tall order but it could have been a lot more bombastic? Like I wanted to see an all-out Rider war. The return of the 20 main suits. The future Riders - would have been cool to see them contribute in the final battle instead of being forgotten about. Maybe some more legend faces in a montage like they did for Gokaiger? The main thing that kept me and many others invested in this show was the anniversary element of it. They tried with the core Zi-O story but it definitely isn't enough and it shows really badly here. There's no excitement, nothing to get hyped over. Well, except Oma Zi-O.
No All Riders battle makes some sense since the movie on theaters is doing that, although it's still kind of disappointing when they have all old villains parading around and easily could have had all Riders facing them throughout the city.
It seems like they forgot all Riders that didn't lose their powers in the more recent arcs, who should have popped up to fight the monsters, and no follow up to the future Riders at all was disappointing too.
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It'd have been cool to see the Kamen riders work together in a new way like Gentaro monitoring space and Kouta trying to fight the chaos of the time stream instead of just rider kicking the umpteenth time but actors don't seem to come back as much for Kamen rider sadly.
I think that could have been done if they were willing to mix up suit-only characters (with actual roles and dialogue, not just battle summons) with actual returning actors. Skyrider did it pretty well. It'd allow them to actually have set "roles" for characters without needing to adjust everything last minute for actors every time.
It was never happening under Shirakura though, since he dislikes suit-only characters due to how badly they were used in Black RX (which he openly criticized back when he first was hired by Toei, shortly after it aired). He only brings them out in movies because it's a cheap way to make money (but even so mostly for final battles).
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