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Super Minipla Victory Robo & GrandLiner Official Images
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SPLIT LIP
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Originally Posted by
Zatyme
Metroplex like the rest of the 2012 series of transformers figures is extremely hollow like from what I remember it weighed about as much as a Cybertron leader class figure despite being around 2 and a half time bigger.
And Grand Liner
isn't
hollow? It's literally five empty boxes on wheels.
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and I'm glad you ignored toe 2nd part of the comment about the molds, production size the less of something is made the more expensive it needs to be to compensate.
I didn't ignore it, it's just not true, at least not to that extent. SMP isn't
that
limited, they're still sold at retail in Japan, they're not online exclusives or anything.
You want to see exclusive? Look at P-Bandai. Entire new-mould kits sold in far fewer numbers and they're not jacked up in price. (Geminass omae...)
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I'll be shocked if there are more than ten thousand units produced of this, and that's not getting into the whole it's most likely only going to be getting a single small production run to make back the costs and it can't be recolored or remolded into something else.
Most model kits aren't. What you're not factoring in is just how cheap model kits are to produce due to no assembly needed. The runners come out, get wrapped up and boxed. Assembly and steel moulds are the most expensive costs in toy production (as far as we know) and model kits only have one of those.
Plus, Bandai is often very chinsy when it comes to those steel moulds. Few parts are moulded in separate colours (and thus require separate moulds) replying on a lot of stickers.
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And that's the main difference between Grand Liner and any Real Grade kit, the later is going to be continuously produced for years and have multiple reuses of their mold (the RG Unicorn Gundam if you include the Banshee and Phenex will have at least 12 different uses and releases by the end of the year; 14 if you include the special versions of the Unicorn and Banshee that only have a different box art )
That's nice, but those aren't factored into the production cost. Releases done years later aren't considered when allotting budget to new moulds, because that's fiscally irresponsible. The cost of tooling needs to be recouped, typically, in the first production. (not necessarily profits) If you're not making your money back right away, you run the risk of not making it back at all, because planning that far ahead is foolish.
If this kit wasn't being sold into the triple digits, (or quintuple digits I guess) I would totally believe you. I do believe you that the factors you gave increase cost, but not to the extent of this. It's not a complex it, it's not even that large. It seems barely more elaborate than Victory Robo. Bandai are charging this much not because they have to, but because they know they can get away with it.
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