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Kamen Rider Die rewatches Legend Rider projects (and more!)
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02-25-2022, 07:44 AM
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Other than handling final projects lately (and these are movies, so not like the 23 minutes TV episodes), I'm kinda skipping this thread due to actually not following early phase 2 heisei series yet (the remaining ones I haven't watched; OOO, Fourze, Wizard. For Reiwa, didn't watch Saber. 1 episode left for Zero-One this Wednesday), so was kinda following your suggestion to not be spoiled (albeit I know the basic stuff those series has especially the forms, also the main characters in this movie), just thinking on what to do if I have watched those movies - though I also actually have less interest in the movies especially the crossover ones.... I'm starting on the more recent one first (in this thread, as well as something I did watch)
Quote:
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER BUILD MOVIE: HEISEI GENERATIONS FINAL
You could've plugged nearly any secondary Rider from the last nine years in his place, but it's still a serviceable story that largely respects his storyline to date. (It's a bit of a step back, but only a bit.)
Now I do actually want to see it being actually done, as they did use multiple main Riders here, so doing the opposite of inserting multiple secondary Riders. Brigades of main Riders with brigade of secondary Riders.
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
So, here's this gift I'm given where, six years after we were promised Ankh would be revived, they
actually pay it off
. Sure, it's for a minute, and sure, he doesn't stick around, but
Ankh comes back
. And he
immediately
tells Eiji he looks like shit! (He sort-of does. He is, uh,
definitely
six years older.) This was a thing that, when I first saw it, meant nothing to me. Now, it means
everything
. I don't want to say it made this movie great (it didn't, this is a pretty forgettable movie), but it's hard to take too many shots at epic fan service like this.
It obviously would've been better if that kind of moment, along with the Fourze and Gaim and Ghost stuff, had been part of a better movie. I don't know. It's possible I'm being too hard on it. Build is a really good series, and I sort-of expect better from its related content. The villains on Build, in particular, are so richly realized that Bikaiser feels even more thin. He's a couple of cackling lunatics, trying to destroy the world. What
ever
. It's no wonder that, while I remembered that Ankh was in this (
he came back!
), I remembered virtually nothing else about the plot. It's a movie that's great at being a Legend Rider delivery system, but only okay at being a Build or Ex-Aid story.
Bikaiser isn't trying to destroy the world, he wants to be completely immortal (still the usual power hungry kind yeah), but of course he doesn't care if his search of power destroys the world. As you said, Build is a really good series, but even from any good series I don't expect those Rider movies to be good now, if I'm being honest, which is why I have less interest in the movies (of course, I skipped this thread, so dunno if there are movies that are really praised here), as Bikaiser part or general plot of the movies that happened in Build: Heisei Generations are not one time thing, but in my experience so far is most of the Rider movie I've watched.
Though, what interests me in this talk is the situation Bikaiser put where how Sento is pushed to do that. Is Sento actually pulling a, quite extremist move to try to save the world here by actually trying to merge the 2 worlds here? (and as Parado stated, it can destroy the world) Is he actually doing something similar to what the likes of Takatora from Gaim did for this part of the story? I'd like for the movie to deal with Sento's (or other Rider's) feelings on how he feels to be pushed to use drastic measures like this, have to cause some damage in the world to prevent actual end of the world, but of course, after Bikaiser was defeated, the resolution is the most easiest one of reverting all the damages that had happened. I do know that Eiji is a wanderer who deals with PTSD from his traumatic experience in the past, war related, and that Ankh is his snarky as well as more morally questionable partner that possesses Hina's brother. Other than that would like for akinoame's OOO analysis to be given a try.
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Kamen Rider Die
Here?s the thing: this
isn?t
a movie about why Banjou is a Kamen Rider. It?s a movie about why Banjou is Sento?s
partner
.
True, it centered between Parado and Banjou interacting with the main Rider from the different series (well, for Banjou, for multiple phase 2 Riders), and I feel like, generic stuff aside (Though I honestly now don't like the "generic" word to criticize something tbh), the focus is far more given to Banjou, disproportionately compared to Parado. What Parado did was only him fighting off some Bugsters and evacuating civilians by Sento's order, as well as shouting on Sento's solution to put the world at risk by maximizing Enigma's output. And it does make sense on Banjou questioning why the other Riders, actually exclusively main Riders, who are mostly made as epitome of nobility, as at this stage he's shown to be selfish and is really focused on his own problems, hypocritically complaining that Sento is focused on his own problems instead of his in the series. Banjou is a secondary Rider though, he's significantly better than the likes of Ankh (who from what I know, has maliciousness like Den-O's Taros except Kin) and especially Parado (who was a major antagonist in the show, the one that is marketed when Ex-Aid was announced and actually became a main one after Kuroto's game over), so Sento's task is significantly easier.
This also shows the difference between Kuroto and Parado though, that Parado is actually redeemed after Emu's brutal but necessary tactic to get him to differentiate video game's lives and human's lives, like him being shocked on Sento's decision to maximize Enigma's output, while Kuroto is still imprisoned and in the series previously, he's only on the heroes side in circumstancial matter, a case of evil vs evil by him getting revenge on Parado and then Masamune, and happens to be aligned with the heroes (like Kusaka fighting Orphnochs due to racism, happens to be what the heroes doing). Kuroto doesn't care about the looming threat the Enigma gives, only cares to feed his god complex, of which luckily Onari can convince him by... ass-kissing him.
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