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10-11-2020, 09:22 AM
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Sh Ranger
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Absolutely! And don't take this as me trying to say you are wrong or as an attempt to change your opinion. I just find Gaim to be a very interesting show to discuss because there's so many different plot elements and moving pieces going on that everybody really has their own feelings about it.
Of course, likewise you are entitled to your opinion and I'm glad you were able to enjoy Gaim. It tried a lot of controversial things which aren't going to work for everybody and I personally wasn't a fan. I think there was a lot of potential for a decent story here if the execution was a little different.
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But see, that's the very reason I like Gaim so much! In your typical Rider series, the secondary Rider joins the hero's side and whatever conflict previously existed between them shifts over to the Tertiary Riders of the series until they too join the "good" side.
But here, Kaito stands by his beliefs and there remains tension between him and Kouta up until the very end. He doesn't necessarily get a redemption arc, but I really don't think he needed one. His heart was ultimately in the right place, but he was so bitter and jaded from what happened to him that he truly felt the only way to create a world free of the oppression that tore his family apart was to destroy what came before. Kouta, on the other hand, learned how to use his powers to save the world that already existed and that came from his growth throughout the series, on top of having strong moral guidance from his sister.
Yeah, I'm very interested in the idea of two people clashing with each other for the entire show. Most recently, there was Aruto and Horobi, and before that, Sougo and Geiz although their rivalry ended at the halfway point. Maybe I would have been okay with this if Kaito's morality was more consistent with his actions.
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And that's a valid take. That's why I like Mitsuzane as a villain so much. Some people see him as totally irredeemable. Others see him as a kid who got way in over his head and didn't have the emotional maturity or the moral guidance to deal with it in a healthy manner. He's a character that's extremely possessive of what's important to him, believes that he's the only one truly aware of what's going on (even though he ironically gets manipulated by just about every villain in the series) and that's what caused him to take the direction he took throughout the series.
I liked the portrayal of Mitsuzane as a villain as well, he's a truly despicable person. But I feel like that character stops working when you try redeeming him. Instead, it's Kaito who gets killed without a redemption and I feel like their arcs were mixed up at the end.
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I don't see this as being true at all.
Kouta is firmly a hero. Zack is definitely one after becoming Knuckle as well.
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Sh Ranger
Zack is the exception but compared to the competition, he's too weak to actually make a difference.
So I do actually acknowledge Zack as the token hero and I was really rooting for him as an underdog to try and stop the pointless fighting between Riders, but he kind of just stays an underdog and gets left behind by all the stronger Riders and even gets his Driver destroyed. He's stronger than Kurokage but that's the extent of his power, at least until he got his own movie and Jimber Arms. It's like all the stuff that should've been in the show was in V-Cinemas written by Mouri.
Kouta on the other hand, he definitely has some heroic qualities at least compared to the really depraved characters, but he sometimes goes in to antihero territory when he does something impulsive and unprovoked like in his interactions with Yoko. It's probably due to some of these hypocrisies that made him unable to redeem Kaito. He's portrayed as a hero simply by being better than some of the worst guys ever and a benevolent space god but compared to most of the Primary Riders in the franchise, he's quite morally challenged and he doesn't always move past that.
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MaskedRiderAsakura
The theme of the series is about power and what people choose to do with that power. So yeah, it's going to be a pretty dark series, because realistically speaking, most of the people that crave power don't have the best of intentions. But it also underlines just how heroic Kouta truly is because he never lets that power corrupt or twist his morals and yeah, he's the one that gets the ultimate power and saves the world at the end of the day. Gaim starts off as a deconstruction, but comes back right around to becoming a reconstruction. You have the idealistic hero archetype who ultimately successfully remains the idealistic hero, you have the typical Tsundere Shonen-rival character who actually follows through on his beliefs but ultimately still has a good heart behind him, you have the loyal best friend who actually isn't all that loyal but does learn from his mistakes and grows, and you have the Well-Intentioned Extremist villain who you'd initially think would stick to that extremist ideology, but actually
wants
to be proven wrong. The villains are so depraved, but that only makes characters look even better when they act genuinely heroic.
The theme of power and its application is there for sure and it's something that was very prominent in Ryuki as well. I just think Ryuki did it better and gave me more a feeling of hope, that despite all these people murdering each other for their selfish wishes, there is still someone trying to learn what's the right way and what does it mean to protect a life? I feel like those things were lacking in Gaim, unfortunately.
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