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Kamen Rider Revice Episode 18- "The Miracle of Fire & Ice" Discussion
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01-17-2022, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
Rei
Hiromi is aging internally because of the belt, he's 80 years old now
WHAT
A lot of us were saying how Hiromi is like a Showa Rider and now his insides are biologically 8 years older than Hongo. It's fitting though that Hiromi's deal with the devil doesn't endanger anyone else, only himself.
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Originally Posted by
IndigoArms
I think Revice is becoming hands down, the best Reiwa rider show by far. One of the reasons is that The main rider actually has development and times feeling conflicted about his actions compared to Zero One and Saber, who I feel hardly changed in the course of the show.
Plus it's getting pretty dark now, despite the fact we had an episode where we had Ikki's ass puckered to Vice's face.
I usually wait until the third quarter before making a judgement like that. I mean, if a new Rider appears in a few episodes and challenges Ikki to some kind of workplace competition, or abducts and tortures Yukimi and refuses to apologize, hypothetically? The second quarter has barely started and stuff can still go wrong, so I'm not letting my guard down!
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
It wasn't a bad episode for Ikki and Vice, either. Again, I really
want
these two to feel like an iconic, inseparable duo, and plots like this do a whole lot to get them there. Although as great as all the introspection is, I can't help but find it funny at the same time how every instance of Ikki potentially reevaluating his own actions has him defaulting back to his comfort zone because a literal personification of his own repressed irresponsibility and narcissism reassures him he's fine the way he is. Ikki really IS Japan's #1 egoist! ...But like, obviously that's a huge oversimplification of Vice's role in the series (which like lots of things in Revice is surprisingly multifaceted), and jokes aside, I do appreciate what the show has been doing having him as this sort of motivating force for his partner.
I enjoyed how Ikki was like, "maybe I don't care about myself" and Vice came back with, "nah bro, that's stupid", since it really wasn't that long ago that we established that Ikki is actually a massive egoist. He's so clinically dishonest with himself that even when he tries, he just can't process where his emotions come from, so he's honestly pretty lucky to have Vice, this part of him he dissociates with, who can see objectively what's wrong with him and how to get him out of his funk. I'm interested to see how this goes, as Ikki continues to disappear from the pictures. Maybe he'll become more self-aware someday, to the point where he no longer needs Vice to guide him anymore.
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Yarlick
Olteca,there?s no redemption for him, he is a pure scumbag and I see him dying miserably at the hand of Giff or something like that.
Hmm, Olteca does seem like a pretty terrible guy. However, I also don't really know anything about him yet. So it's too early for me to determine his capacity for redemption. Maybe he's also the victim of Deadmans' propaganda in some way.
I used to think Medic from Drive was irredeemable, but it turned out she was a kind person who got corrupted by absorbing too many negative emotions from healing other Roidmudes.
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DreadBringer
Regarding Julio, seems that the blame isn't only on the traitor, but he himself has a share for not considering Yosuke's condition that, actually I'm wrong, he too was bullied. That's some good bait for them to make Julio say no to Yosuke's offer at first, thought as a rejection, but actually it's Julio blaming himself a bit.
Do you think Julio's blaming himself a little too much though? Even if Yosuke's sticking to the story that he was "coerced", it was ultimately his choice to tear up the card. I do believe Yosuke deserves forgiveness for being apologetic, but I can't blame Julio for reacting with hurt, although his choice of turning to Deadmans was an extreme result of that.
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