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dreamcastegirl Watched All of Kamen Rider Ryuki and Now Hates Herself
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c/w: real world Nazis, discussion of abuse
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
I had to clarify that it's not you that I specifically refer for this, sorry. To sum it up, for that reply I was talking in a general sense (except for Kanzaki explanation), not Ryuki sense.
I think I understand a bit better now, sorry, in that case, if I sounded as I was on the defensive, I was just a little thrown. I agree with you that it's absolutely a bad idea to play down characters who exhibit negative patterns of behaviour, and if Asakura or Takayama were real individuals, there is no amount of theoretical bending over backwards I could do to justify their actions—but because this is a story, I find them interesting as they introduce a conflict that other characters grow from, for example Ren, who tried to smother his conscience and act like Asakura and found he was incapable.
I'm interested in the possibility of Asakura making a choice to save one life, not because I think this excuses anything else he has done throughout the story, but because I think it demonstrates the lack of absolutes in the narrative. I spoke earlier about how I liked the villains of the Showa shows as they had actively chosen evil. A lot of my personal feelings about these characters are tied up with the fact that the roots of Shocker are canonically explained to be comprised of escaped Nazi war criminals. Without discussing my personal history too much, I come from a background where little details such as this evoke a lot of feeling even in the sense that we are discussing a fictional universe—I don't know if you have seen the
Ghost
film,
Kamen Rider 1
, but I find the depiction of Ambassador Hell in this to be really difficult, but also really fascinating because here is a man who acts a stand-in for real Nazis making a choice that might well have also benefited him but came also from a place he considered to be
right
.
I think that we, as a species, are at our most terrifying when we believe we are in the right.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is that whilst this is children's media, there are things we can learn about evil characters that we can contrast with our understanding of the world, and I think that's a good thing, I think to constantly question of our beliefs, to constantly ask ourselves if we are on the right path is a good thing, and that's why I'm in favour of the way in which Asakura is depicted.
In regards to Iyu, I... well, I think she is tragic. Iyu comes across to me as the survivor of systematic abuse, and her role in the story of
Amazons
breaks my heart. I found the second season genuinely troubling to watch, and I wish that instead of going all in with grim-and-gritty adolescent shock value, the show had properly explored what it is to survive, what it is to be incapable of mending.
I hope this made sense, sorry for broaching some difficult topics in this post.
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