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Kamen Rider ZI-O News and Rumours Disscussion Thread
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05-20-2018, 11:46 AM
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The Chaos Entity
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Quote:
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Black Fang
So what? Just because something is popular doesn't mean my view is invalid. There's a lot of popular stuff out there that is straight junk. (Not Den-O; I won't call it junk but I'm not a big fan of it for several reasons. I do like that they were trying something different though)
This is the first time I'm hearing about people doing that. I only knew about the sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subway. Where did you read anything about pleasing adults in what I wrote? What I said Ohranger could have done would have been just as much for the kids, if not more than for adults.
Honestly, I'm really sick of the "kids' show" argument that I've seen for years. It's just a way to end a conversation and stop thinking. "Oh it's for kids, you're not the target audience so it doesn't matter what you say." Why bother even having online forums, then? Yet at the same time the fandom likes to extol what Japanese shows can get away with as opposed to American shows. Well, if that's the case, then maybe it's worth discussing when Japan falls short of the their previously established mark?
What is, to you, 'straight junk' could be someone else's favourite thing in the world. Your opinion is valid, yes...but no moreso than mine, or anyone else's. If something is popular...people like it for a reason. I can't stand Twilight, for instance, and I think Fifty Shades of Grey represents the BDSM community terribly. I think Amazons is 'okay', but far from a masterpiece.
Each one of them is hugely popular, and has reasons to be so, even if I disagree with them. I wasn't arguing that you were wrong...just that it is your opinion, and not a fact. The tone of your post very much seems to imply that your opinion that a Kamen Rider show 'needs' to be this, that, or the other...are some written-into-stone fact, and I was/am pointing out that...no they aren't. Amazons and Den-O look resemble, in many ways, Garo and Super Sentai more than they do Kamen Rider. But they're still Kamen Rider. There is virtually nothing shared between them - even the 'man with evil powers fighting for hope, peace and justice' backbone is heavily distorted between the two. Kamen Rider...can be anything it wants to be. It can be lighter than you want, and darker than I want...that doesn't make it 'a bad show' objectively, just a bad show to us, subjectively.
With regards to the stabbings, I apologize - I misremembered. The head of the cult was stabbed with a kitchen knife in the middle of the street (I believe in response to the stabbings).
But...are you serious? Why bother having online forums, really? Just because something is a kids' show (which Kamen Rider
is
and always has been) doesn't mean there aren't multiple things to discuss about it. There is no point
not
bringing it up because...Kamen Rider
is
a kids' show. It's bound by what a kids' show can be. It's primary purpose is to sell toys. Toei and Bandai consider Gaim a success
not
because of the show - it's ratings were absolutely terrible - but because the toyline was a smash-hit with its target audience.
Ghost
is just the same - the Ghost Eyecons were hugely popular, and the Rider Gashats of Ex-Aid broke new records.
Ignoring all of that means you're arguing with only half the story. Why doesn't Evolto activate the Evol Trigger this episode? Whatever answer the show gives us, the
real
reason is that the Evol Trigger in the show represents the Evol Trigger Toy...not released until June. Some shows - like Ex-Aid and Build are fantastic at writing around those limitations. Why doesn't Sento use the new Belt like Banjou? Because his Hazard Level - an established piece of lore - isn't high enough.
Others, like Ghost, are not so great at it. Where does Takeru get the power to achieve Mugen Soul? Um. He just does.
That's a reason for discussion right there.
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