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06-14-2019, 05:00 PM
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Annuga
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Kurona
I think as well, something that's being missed out of the conversation -- there's not really an upside here.
Usually a feature being taken away - in video games in general; not Game Freak's weird little world - just means that they're focusing on offering a new type of experience this time.
Super Mario Galaxy doesn't have Sunshine's FLUDD and gameplay mechanics -- not only would it not fit, but it's going for something completely different and new in terms of the motion controls, the gravity mechanics and the planetary travel.
Metroid Prime 2 doesn't have Metroid Prime 1's Wave/Ice/Plasma beams which were even a constant of the series outside of Prime 1; but that's because they generally wouldn't fit and there's something new in its place. We instead have the Light and Dark beams which not only are more thematically appropriate, but interact with the world in important ways that the other beams would both interrupt and not add anything meaningful despite being a series staple.
Sword and Shield have removed a huge swath of Pokémon, the ability to transfer them, Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves; and in their place is offering...
...
Uh...
I actually can't think of any new features outside of Dynamax. Which as a new toy kinda makes sense that they wouldn't have Megas and Z-Moves back - they're similar concepts which could potentially overshadow Dynamax and just make it less impressive and dynamic that there's three different concepts running around doing similar things - but that's not even close to a feature that cutting Pokémon would allow, even before getting into arguments about whether it's exciting or not. (personal opinion? Dynamax looks really really lame, but I'll wait for more info about it before reserving judgement)
The funny thing is, I can even point to an example within Pokémon itself that was
very
recent where a similar thing occurred that made sense -- LGPE. Outside of Meltan and Melmetal, it featured no Pokémon outside of the original 151 and you couldn't transfer from any previous game aside from Go. While I personally believe that it was overpriced for what it was, LGPE's decision to do this made sense for what it was going for -- it was not only a remake of Yellow which only featured those Pokémon, but it was also a way to introduce both new players and GO players to the franchise. Having a smaller number of Pokémon would help ease in newer players without overwhelming them with a humongous selection of Pokémon, while Go players would mostly just be familiar with Gen 1 Pokémon at that point. I believe Go had added Gen 2 Pokémon by LGPE's release date, but not only had the userbase waned by then but Go players would still be most familiar with your Charmanders and Poliwags and Bellsprouts. The decision to give less content had an alternative reason behind it that made sense for the demographic it was aiming at and the purpose it was going for.
I could even use an example from Sword/Shield itself! Standard tall grass seems to be gone in favour of the Wild Area. While that's a feature that has disappeared, it has been replaced by something else in function that gives a totally different feel while still keeping intact what's important. It might be a decision you don't like, but at least it's clear what the reason is and that they're just attempting something new and interesting.
Here, there is no good apparent reason for it; and in fact it was made abundantly clear to us that it was purely on technical and time-saving reasons -- even the way Masuda was talking seemed to indicate that it's something he was deeply disappointed with having to do. There is nothing we are getting in return for this; there is no new feature for which this is a benefit; there is no replacement. The fact is we simply have less content than the previous game - which was on a technically far inferior console to boot - which while for understandable reasons, still means we have less.
There was a Smash comparison earlier, so let me make another one -- Sakurai wanted to bring back Ice Climbers for Smash, and there was no non-technical reason for not bringing them back. He's talked in multiple interviews about how the development team tried literally everything they could to try and make Ice Climbers work on the 3DS' tech, but despite their best efforts; it's just not something that was achievable. Similarly, Zelda/Sheik and Samus/Zero Suit Samus had to be separated into different characters while Squirtle and Ivysaur were removed entirely to turn Pokémon Trainer into a solo Charizard. It seems clear as well that mechanics like Rosalina's Luma were an attempt to preserve a multiple-character fighter while still being workable on the 3DS' tech.
And the thing is? This is that in absolute hyperdrive. It's not just a handful of characters that had to be unfortunately cut, changed or replaced by a similar mechanic; oh no, this is on a far bigger scope by cutting out entire, huge swaths of creatures. We don't know how many Pokémon precisely won't exist in the game, but from how it's being talked about it doesn't exactly seem like it'll be a small percentage. And the big difference with Smash 4? It still had a hell of a lot more total characters than the previous games; meaning while cut characters like Ice Climbers and Snake did sting, it wasn't nearly as much of a negative in the face of the sheer amount of newcomers which made for a far bigger and juicier roster.
The reality is that this game right now just looks vastly inferior to the previous offerings, and rather than there being any tangible benefit to it; the best defence is "it's not that bad".
Does it justify an outrage? Honestly, not really; and even without looking at the worst examples like people harassing Masuda's twitter over it (seriously, people, STOP DOING THIS SHIT) I think we could all do with a little chilling out, a little bit of perspective, and a little bit more realistic understanding of why and how these problems occur (I would point to the absolutely bizarre and unconventional schedule of releasing a main game
every single year
, it's had a clear unhealthy effect on these games for a while and this is it reaching its tipping point). But at the end of the day, it's still a negative, and one that is going to severely impact the enjoyment of these games for a lot of people; myself included.
One thing you mentioned was the Prime 2 beam weapons, they also fit Prime 2's more horror-esque tone by giving you limited ammo, making you feel less safe as you only have a finite amount of Dark or Light ammo
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