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Kamen Rider Die watches Masked Rider Ryuki
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05-03-2020, 03:59 PM
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DreadBringer
Well OK it's understandable to have a full plate, especially with the link being wall of texts, but I'm just judging from how you can read stuffs like wiki to gain more info (like Faiz above). But at least for Ryuki and OOO, use that link in place of wiki to know more. Honestly, I think
every
Ryuki and OOO fan should check that out.
Noted! Thanks!
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For Femme which part of Ren distancing away (there are multiple part).
Any part? The earlier stuff, when Ren and Asakura team up, would give Miho more screentime, and would allow her intro to more naturally include her grudge against Asakura. But you could also do it when Eri gets worse, if you wanted to space out new Riders.
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For Ryuga, somehow I'm thinking on the part where Shinji thinks about saving Yui (by killing other Riders). That's a completely vile action because it's exactly how other Riders are bad, and by that, I'd like for Ryuga to represent that part of him that potentially does dirty work for someone he cares, manifestation of his inner demon part, but I don't know the way to implement it. Besides, Episode Final made changes like Shinji and Yui being childhood friends (it's a change like in 13 Riders where Ren and Tezuka are best friends and both are Eri's boyfriends) for the sole purpose of creating Ryuga. Also Ryuga is still no match for Survive Riders (the final battle has Knight in Survive form obviously).
I think having Ryuga come about because of Shinji's inability to take a life is interesting. That could be cool, a distraught Shinji unknowingly creating the merciless Ryuga. Good idea!
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For Shiro and Verde, I'd like for Shiro to keep interfering in Rider Battles (partly so you wouldn't think Shiro is irrelevant in Rider Battles, to show he truly has complete control over every Rider/Mirror stuff) different from what you want.... but I mean he also could just use Verde as his enforcer right? Both sides are fulfilled. Shiro does use other Riders to do his dirty works too, not only Odin or Mirror Monsters. Like he supports Ouja, giving him tips and orders, to make him kill other Riders. Or Shinji for above. If he uses Ouja as killer machine, he could use Verde as what you've described above. Shiro could talk with Verde about like how great Rider War is, what you will get, and the potential of it failing, etc. to make Verde ensure the fight happens and persuade others.. Though I also think Verde's role to keep others fighting overlaps with Gai's? (and for sure, they are partners in 13 Riders) I know Verde has charisma and if he's successful, then other Riders would all be a clear-cut villain, which is what 13 Riders were about, so make Riders harder to convince? Also "and then you could do the Imperer story with the reveal that his dad was Verde." lol that would make sense that Sano's building is set in the same place as Takamizawa's. Company name's aren't the same though in 13 Riders it's Takamizawa Group, in series it's Sano Company.
I think I'd be a fan of Shiro starting the Rider Battles, being an omnipotent overseer, the gamemaster, and then have all of the combat and subterfuge and obstacles be something that generates out of the Riders. Keep them as the instigators, not some all-powerful dude who keeps putting his finger on the scales. Like, football (American football) is least fun to watch when there are penalties every single play, and the refs are adding and subtracting yardage. Shiro's the same way to me, someone who's so involved that it can make successes and failures feel too mutable.
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I don't know if Scientist Shiro (other groups of flashbacks too? this is another part of Mirror World story) would fit in Reiko's investigations as she doesn't know about that part (other than asking what he did), probably I'd like for Kagawa to do the exposition job (to his group, obviously not to others which he's secretive), as he knows the most about Shiro's sthick, with flashbacks along the way.
There's a bunch of Reiko's investigation we never see on the show. She goes to America for several episodes, and we only find out when she gets back! I'm thinking of something where Reiko tracks down more people who knew Shiro way back when (classmates, neighbors, whatever) and as she interviews them, we get flashbacks to pertinent information: Shiro talking about Mirror World with a college roommate, Shiro telling a girlfriend about how he wants to save his sister from some mysterious fate, a fellow scientist (like Kagawa) who helped him design the Card Decks, etc. Beyond the exposition, I think it would've been helpful to ground some of Shiro's motivation, show how he got to this point.
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