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Kamen Rider Die watches Masked Rider Ryuki
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05-03-2020, 03:04 PM
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DreadBringer
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
I mean, boy, I would, it's very nice of you to link to it, but my plate is pretty full right this second. Work has become a 24/7 thing, I got personal life stuff I gotta catch up on (why does laundry always
need
to be done, why is it never actually
done
) and my Kamen Rider bandwidth is pretty well spoken for. I'll try, is kind-of the best I can say. It's not going to be real quick, honestly. But thanks!
Well OK it's understandable to have a full plate, especially with the link being wall of texts, but I'm just judging from how you can read stuffs like wiki to gain more info (like Faiz above). But at least for Ryuki and OOO, use that link in place of wiki to know more. Honestly, I think
every
Ryuki and OOO fan should check that out.
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Magnugiga
I was super bummed out with Miho's eventual fate and how she couldn’t escape the Female Rider Curse,
Yup, for Ryuki, I'll give it a free pass for Female Rider Curse... I mean all Riders in Ryuki are supposed to die! What if she dies? Most of the other male Riders are also die! It's not sexism.
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Magnugiga
I figured you could have Verde as an early boss character in the vein of Scissors and Gai, making his mark and leaving in fairly quickly fashion.
Well, there are always monsters for Riders to show off their abilities. There are Riders who never use Final Vents on other Riders like Imperer.
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Magnugiga
Problem was, assuming you still have the regular episode count to work with, there’s a lot that need to be cut to accommodate all that. The Tiger and Alternative parts can probably be shortened, but then would you cut the filler/comedic episodes/all the ORE Journal stuff? In any other series, I’d do it in a heartbeat, but not in Ryuki. Those parts are way too good.
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Kamen Rider Die
First, yeah, you can't drop the comedy episodes. Not only are they some of my favorite moments in the series (Kitaoka's silent Henshin! Yui destroying that apartment! MEGUMI!) but they're great breaks in the story.
Yeah that's the problem, the filler stuff are, well, fillers, and deride from more plot elements (and especially if those are good). Probably shorten some of the 2 parters into one part (like Ouja and Mika, or figuring out SSSS' plan, solving things quicker), t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶R̶i̶d̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶r̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶S̶c̶i̶s̶s̶o̶r̶s̶ or, dunno if this is optimal, but cut some repeated fights for extra 3 Riders stuff. Or... (if your concern is number of Riders not being 13) turn the SSSS into actual extra Riders instead of Alternatives.
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Kamen Rider Die
I mean, I watched her OOO series, and I don't recall feeling nearly as adrift and unfulfilled as I did off of her Ryuki plot.
Yeah, I'd think probably Kobayashi realizes the cons of Show Don't Tell and tone it down in some of her next other Rider series. I've been trying to explain Shiro's stuff (like I think the Rider stuffs are pretty legit) here. The one I can't really get is the pictures coming to life. The best I've read (yeah, from that essay) is that Mirror World is a place that grants wish (they wish to be protected by the monsters) in general, but the wishes, like those power Shiro creates, are phantoms that only exists in (or in connection to) the Mirror World, for a real world wish, need 12 Rider lives, Rider War there is. She fixed that part in Den-O later, where it's explicitly explained that imagination can become reality - same principle as Ryuki there but confirmed.
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Kamen Rider Die
I don't usually try and think of this stuff, try and "fix" stories, so I hope that doesn't sound too dumb!
Well yeah, currently your what-ifs here aren't dumb and contradictory.... good. For Femme which part of Ren distancing away (there are multiple part). For Ryuga, somehow I'm thinking on the part where Shinji thinks about saving Yui (by killing other Riders). That's a completely vile action because it's exactly how other Riders are bad, and by that, I'd like for Ryuga to represent that part of him that potentially does dirty work for someone he cares, manifestation of his inner demon part, but I don't know the way to implement it. Besides, Episode Final made changes like Shinji and Yui being childhood friends (it's a change like in 13 Riders where Ren and Tezuka are best friends and both are Eri's boyfriends) for the sole purpose of creating Ryuga. Also Ryuga is still no match for Survive Riders (the final battle has Knight in Survive form obviously).
For Shiro and Verde, I'd like for Shiro to keep interfering in Rider Battles (partly so you wouldn't think Shiro is irrelevant in Rider Battles, to show he truly has complete control over every Rider/Mirror stuff) different from what you want.... but I mean he also could just use Verde as his enforcer right? Both sides are fulfilled. Shiro does use other Riders to do his dirty works too, not only Odin or Mirror Monsters. Like he supports Ouja, giving him tips and orders, to make him kill other Riders. Or Shinji for above. If he uses Ouja as killer machine, he could use Verde as what you've described above. Shiro could talk with Verde about like how great Rider War is, what you will get, and the potential of it failing, etc. to make Verde ensure the fight happens and persuade others.. Though I also think Verde's role to keep others fighting overlaps with Gai's? (and for sure, they are partners in 13 Riders) I know Verde has charisma and if he's successful, then other Riders would all be a clear-cut villain, which is what 13 Riders were about, so make Riders harder to convince? Also "and then you could do the Imperer story with the reveal that his dad was Verde." lol that would make sense that Sano's building is set in the same place as Takamizawa's. Company name's aren't the same though in 13 Riders it's Takamizawa Group, in series it's Sano Company.
I don't know if Scientist Shiro (other groups of flashbacks too? this is another part of Mirror World story) would fit in Reiko's investigations as she doesn't know about that part (other than asking what he did), probably I'd like for Kagawa to do the exposition job (to his group, obviously not to others which he's secretive), as he knows the most about Shiro's sthick, with flashbacks along the way.
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