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07-25-2020, 07:16 AM | #1 |
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With the loss of the Zero-One Driver, many believe all hope is lost. But Aruto has one last project in mind to challenge The Ark....
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07-25-2020, 07:34 PM | #2 |
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> okay so Zero-Two doesn't go doubling and the like... he just do better, more 'silent' moves of Shining Hopper doing simulated attacks.
> Aruto putting Izu in so many simulations she achieved "Dame desu" waifu tier... xD it's sad though 'cause she has to go through that much pain just to achieve it. > Ark gets outcalculated... this part of the series is basically 5d chess now... xD and we're gonna see Ark-1 soon as countermeasure to 02. > ALSO HAVE YOU SEEN THE WAY ARK BECAME SO EFFICIENT SO GOES STRAIGHT FOR THE KILL BEFORE ANYONE CAN HENSHIN?! Last time I saw this was in Ryukendo... that was over a decade man... oh s*** Tsukasa's behind this isn't he?!
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07-25-2020, 07:43 PM | #3 |
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Man the first half of this episode really had me shook, especially since I couldn't understand it until like we sorta got a visual of what was happening during 02's introduction.
Still really cool and I enjoy how simple Zero-Two is, I'll need subs to better understand but man. THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST TIME 01 HAS HAD ME THIS SHOOK |
07-25-2020, 07:59 PM | #4 |
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Ufff... Yeah, this has to be the worst Final Form episode in a long time...
First, why does the Ark suddenly want to kill Aruto after leaving him last episode? Like, you had him right there! Just throw him off the damn damm! That's the only reason it lost! Second, the episode is just confusing and not fun to watch. You can catch onto the fact that this is a simulation relatively early, but even with that info it just tries to fake you out so often that it gets repetitive and boring. And boy... technology is just magic now. 3D-Printers? Who needs that? Somewhat realistic limitations? Pah! Nah, we just let memory units turn into Progrise Keys because reasons! And get a magical Zero-Two Driver as well! Why not! And lastly, Zero-Two falls into the same problem Shining Hopper had. It's just confusing to look at. It doesn't properly convey what it actually can do. The visuals just don't explain it properly. Aruto somehow explodes but is fine. Ok? God... I really wanted to like this episode, especially after the last two were so good, but this? Yeah... Sorry, that was just bad in my opinion. |
07-25-2020, 10:27 PM | #5 |
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Ufff... Yeah, this has to be the worst Final Form episode in a long time...
First, why does the Ark suddenly want to kill Aruto after leaving him last episode? Like, you had him right there! Just throw him off the damn damm! That's the only reason it lost! Second, the episode is just confusing and not fun to watch. You can catch onto the fact that this is a simulation relatively early, but even with that info it just tries to fake you out so often that it gets repetitive and boring. And boy... technology is just magic now. 3D-Printers? Who needs that? Somewhat realistic limitations? Pah! Nah, we just let memory units turn into Progrise Keys because reasons! And get a magical Zero-Two Driver as well! Why not! And lastly, Zero-Two falls into the same problem Shining Hopper had. It's just confusing to look at. It doesn't properly convey what it actually can do. The visuals just don't explain it properly. Aruto somehow explodes but is fine. Ok? God... I really wanted to like this episode, especially after the last two were so good, but this? Yeah... Sorry, that was just bad in my opinion. I can't tell if you copy/pasted this from Reddit or the other way around. Lemme just fanangle through what you're saying. "Why didn't the Ark kill Aruto right there and throw him into the dam." There are some ways this could be explained as we didn't see what happened between 39 and 40. Jin could've easily used his flame-y teleportation abilities to whisk Aruto and Izu away back to the compound. The ark could've processed the idea of killing Aruto right away AFTER it had assimilated the satellite. Linear processing. "The episode was confusing and you can catch on early that it's a simulation." The subs aren't out yet, so there might be some info we haven't seen yet. I'd also say the hiatus might have affected the way how the original script was going to go. I didn't think it was repetitive since the repetition simulation only happened, like what? Twice? "Technology is magic now." In a show where a robot can teleport using fire, 3D print using a belt without no materials to gather from, and spawn large metal constructs of animals using belts, a USB device turning into a progrise key and spawning a belt from your mechanical finger tips is weird. I get it, it definitely was weird, it's not the strangest I've seen. There will definitely be some info once we get the subs. Maybe the point of the simulations was to somehow reactivate Zea from within Izu. Also, did you forget that the Humagears can already 3d print stuff within themselves without problem, so long as they have the data. I.E. the Magia. "Zero Two and Shining Hopper are confusing." How is Shining Hopper confusing? It just creates holographic simulations of all of Zero-One's possible attacks, which fools the enemy and gives Aruto the necessary move to attack them with. Zero-Two ain't that hard either. It's just two Zero-Twos. Aruto doesn't explode, it's energy from the Ark's attack that explodes. And he's fine cuz it's a form debut and they always whisk off the attacks when it's their debut cuz they're stronger. I get the nitpicks, but they CAN be explained. |
07-26-2020, 03:54 AM | #6 |
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Over-time working overtime to get subs out so quick!!!
This episode feels really inspired in the way it's presented. Having us go through that initial worst outcome from Izu's perspective is a really surreal experience. Also seeing Izu break down and expressing, like, any emotion outside her usual range feels exactly like the big deal it should be, even though I do still think we should have seen her acting less machine-like much earlier. The visualisation they choose to use of Zea creating the new progrise key and driver is certainly a lot more, uh, whimsical compared to how this show usually showcases the tech, but I think it works as emotional imagery. Aruto and Izu holding their hands out together, and the Zero-Two driver coming to them as a representation of the shared dream between Humans and Humagear. To be honest, I wish Zea wasn't involved at all? I wish Aruto and Izu just managed to build the thing on their own, with the limited tools at their disposal. If that sounds unrealistic, well... so is everything else about the tech in this show anyway. Still no idea how Aruto, who has never been shown to be a technological wiz of any sort, managed to invent a system that's more powerful than anything Zea could do on it's own. I guess by that same token, they've never shown that he wouldn't be good with tech, so I guess I can't call it a contradiction!? Zero-Two itself is cool though. Alongside a flashy new insert song, with lots of callbacks to Aruto's first fight as Zero-One, it's a fittingly spectacular debut for a final form. Finally, this is getting into the preview but... I don't like that Aruto is apparently back as president of Hiden Intelligence. Didn't the show just make a big deal out of how he was going to surpass his grandfather by sticking with his own company, built with his own hands, and culminating with a Rider he conceptualised on his own. Since I'm already talking about the preview, I'm sure Horobi siding with our heroes is going to be about as well done as Gai and his robo puppy, but I already fully expect that we just gotta group up everybody on one side before we blow up the Ark sentai-styled. |
07-26-2020, 05:19 AM | #7 |
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Sadly this episode left me a bit unfazed. Ark being "Okay I kill Aruto now" - I mean sure? Why though? I guess he's your main threat now that you control the satellite but you could’ve done that last week super easy.
Not a fan of the whole simulation / time-rewind thing. You see it coming so the pain you should feel for witnessing these characters die is numbed to nonexistence. The only time this episode got me was when Izu tried to wake Aruto up, that was a really well done scene. And then - Zero-Two. The suit is glorious, it absolutely is. Streamlined, looks great, simple function. No reusing past powers shenanigans, no reusing past weapons shtick. They thankfully eliminated those before with Rampage Gatling and Ark-Zero. It’s great that a final form can just be the strong thing that punches and kicks well. I'm glad they brought the visuals from Shining Hopper back as well, because honestly, that's when this show got really creative with visualizing the powers of the AI combatants and it has never been surpassed for me since. Although this is where Zero-Two also falls flat a bit for me: It doesn’t do much original stuff. All the things I praised it for are valid, but it still lacks that little pinch of originality. So the episode was good I guess? The scene with Izu crying made me feel things, Zero-Two is nice - but overall the episode only felt like a solid 6/10 when I wanted it to be a 12/10. I'm also really not a fan of how the Progrise Key and Driver came into existence. Felt a bit wonky overall. Lastly, there is one thing I actually hated about this episode. Zero-Two had a cyber muffler just like his dad after withstanding Ark-Zero's finisher. Why is this not a thing for this form? Why doesn’t he have it when he moves around fast? It would've not only looked awesome but would’ve been a nice nod to Ichi-Gata. It’s funny, whenever I feel like Kamen Rider does movie tie-ins terribly they cannot figure out one simple thing I actually would’ve enjoyed seeing referenced. |
07-26-2020, 08:49 AM | #8 |
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Got the subs, not much to say but I still really enjoyed this episode. Zero-Two seems to be right by my assumption of it being the true Successor to Shining Hopper as it is Shining Hopper on crack.
Not so much less than a second decisions that help you outmaneuver the opponents and more so just actually out-predicting decisions based on what was going on. Also I'm inclined to go along with the more whimsical aspects here because literally, MBJR created Ark-Zero by creating a data key that fell into a bunch of wires that then decided to spit out a symbiote entity that can just take the shape of a Driver and fly around and stuff. Last edited by Enchilada645; 07-26-2020 at 08:57 AM.. |
07-26-2020, 11:57 AM | #9 |
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And lastly, Zero-Two falls into the same problem Shining Hopper had. It's just confusing to look at. It doesn't properly convey what it actually can do. The visuals just don't explain it properly. Aruto somehow explodes but is fine. Ok?
Zero Two is a damn refreshing final form, being a straight “improvement” over the already clean base form. He’s a Kamen a Rider, and he looks the part, and is so much better than the hideous Metal Cluster Hopper. Quote:
Though Aruto knowing this, planning this, and triggering it within her subconsciously was kind of cruel. Kind of impressive for a character I've always felt as a short-sighted idiot, but cruel. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 07-26-2020 at 12:07 PM.. |
07-26-2020, 04:33 PM | #10 |
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I didn't predict this outcome.
When Aruto died, I figured this was going to be another new form resurrection. But then Gai got shot through the heart, followed by Isamu and Yua, and I got confused. Zea creating a backup of itself inside Izu and running simulations to counter Ark's predictions was pretty clever and showing the scenario from Izu's perspective made it and her sadness seem real and sympathetic. The Ark is another perspective. I knew Aruto was going to make it out okay from the trailer but disregarding that, my question was "how?" especially after simulated Ark started killing off the main characters. Zero Two is cool. I never disliked the form and merely didn't consider it final form material but as xSauriaNx said before, technically it's not Zero One's final form cause it's not Zero One anymore. Zea said Metal Cluster Hopper is the peak of Zero One's learning. Thinking of it like that, Zero Two returning to a basic design with less flash and just doing basic stuff more effectively makes a lot of sense. And now Aruto is capable of AI processing speeds in real time without having to interface with Zea. That's another meaning of 2: 1 human + 1 AI = a symbol of the relationship between 2 kinds of being.
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