[Galvantula]

After looking at the news that Fourze is becoming one of the lowest ranked series after Decade I got to wondering what could be the biggest stinker in all the KR series.

I'll have to go with Decade here. Continuity isn't tokusatsu's strong point but Decade made it a point to make sure no one understood what the heck was going on. Plus the main Rider is unlikeable and a Gary Stu with lame friends and a confusing storyline.

I was wondering what are your thoughts on this matter.

[coturos]

hmmm. not sure, will have to think thi- KKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
horrible writing, hardly any good characters, no explanations, kabuto can suck a d*ck, and worst one of all............drake. also to u tendou supporters let me just say this, his complete opposite and DARK version is the nice one!!!!

[Den-O]

Sorry but I'd actually have to say it's a tossup between Blade and Fourze. I like both of them, so calling them the 'worst' is unfair but Fourze is far too goofy and gimmick oriented and Blade just never felt all that great to me.

[Switchblade]

I'll start by saying that I don't think there's such a thing as a truly bad Kamen Rider show. I've enjoyed every single one that I've seen in some manner or another. Ultimately, however, there are some shows that I thought had some serious problems that kept them from living up to their full potential.

Of all of these, I'd have to say the most disappointing is definitely Faiz. Faiz has a cool concept: in a lot of ways it's like reverse X-Men; humanity fighting against the next evolution of the species. There are some good characters in the show and some awesome designs. It also has a fantastic plot twist midway through the show that makes perfect sense but still came out as a surprise.

Where the show fails, however, is that the writing gets so far up its own ass that it can no longer see the sunshine. The entire plot swings on every character refusing to engage in open dialogue with each other and the show goes to almost ridiculous lengths to be "dark and edgy." While a mature show isn't bad, most of Faiz's drama is reliant on over-the-top melodrama and people being idiots. It makes it even worse that we have Kusaka hanging around contributing nothing but more and more interpersonal conflict, none of which can be easily resolved without people talking (which means, of course, that it all goes unresolved). And then there's the end, which fails completely at wrapping up any ongoing plot lines.

It's just a huge mess of a show. There are a lot of parts I like, but they tend to get overshadowed by all the stupid.

[Den-O]

Originally Posted by Switchblade

I'll start by saying that I don't think there's such a thing as a truly bad Kamen Rider show. I've enjoyed every single one that I've seen in some manner or another. Ultimately, however, there are some shows that I thought had some serious problems that kept them from living up to their full potential.

Of all of these, I'd have to say the most disappointing is definitely Faiz. Faiz has a cool concept: in a lot of ways it's like reverse X-Men; humanity fighting against the next evolution of the species. There are some good characters in the show and some awesome designs. It also has a fantastic plot twist midway through the show that makes perfect sense but still came out as a surprise.

Where the show fails, however, is that the writing gets so far up its own ass that it can no longer see the sunshine. The entire plot swings on every character refusing to engage in open dialogue with each other and the show goes to almost ridiculous lengths to be "dark and edgy." While a mature show isn't bad, most of Faiz's drama is reliant on over-the-top melodrama and people being idiots. It makes it even worse that we have Kusaka hanging around contributing nothing but more and more interpersonal conflict, none of which can be easily resolved without people talking (which means, of course, that it all goes unresolved). And then there's the end, which fails completely at wrapping up any ongoing plot lines.

It's just a huge mess of a show. There are a lot of parts I like, but they tend to get overshadowed by all the stupid.

You know I somehow completely forgot about Faiz. That alone says alot about how unmemorable it was. Faiz is the one I'm sticking with as well.

[Matrixbeast]

Decade.
Decade
Decade!

A series about a dimension crossing Kamen Rider who has the power to transform into the previous Riders and use their powers. That alone sounds like a lame fanfic.

It fails character wise because it tries too hard to make Tsukasa the ultimate Gary Stu. He's perfect at everything (With a token weakness of "Can't take pictures"), even gaining abilities as he crosses worlds. He can apparently outfight everyone. He has a dotting girlfriend who would go to the ends of the earth for him and his only reactions is to just blow her off. He has a best friend who would go to the ends of the earth for him and his only reaction is to just treat him like he's dirt. He's an amnesiac with a "Mysterious" past, and he's also the leader of Shocker.
And that's just Tsukasa. Natsumi is only there to play up Tsukasa. She experiences no growth or change. She exists solely to occasionally act as Tsukasa's morality bug. Yusuke was only important on 3 occasions. Kuuga world, Agito world, and Den-O world. Kaito is pretty much the closest thing this show has to an actual character, and even then, his storyline with his brother and the Dark Rider world was never resolved.

Story wise, it's just a giant whirlwind of failure. It features a plot that's semi interesting (Decade going around befriending the riders, only to find out that the AU worlds were supposed to be destroyed to allow the original worlds to survive), only for it to go nowhere and, literally, unresolved. Writing changes to the finale and the movie making it feel extremely incomplete. Characters never really grow or change, just kind of stagnate there as the series goes on. Tsukasa as a character never becoming endearing.

Action wise, it was awesome. But it's Kamen Rider. All the series have awesome action.

It's an anniversary series that only exists to show the old costumes again. That's no excuse for being such a horrible series.

That said, Decade is a great series and I will happily rewatch it.

[Xion14]

I look at it more as which series had the most anticlimactic/unsatisfying/abrupt ending.

[Starscreamer]

My problem with Fourze is that it is a good show, but just not a kamen rider...now is this for all? Because if that was the case I would actually Amazon... sorry, but a boy who lived on the jungle dropped into civilization... no. If not him than maybe oh...Shin?

[MidoGreen]

Of all the series I've seen(Ryuki, Kabuto, Den-O, Kiva, Decade, Double, OOO, and Fourze), I'd have to say Decade. Just didn't feel very satisfying in the end.

[Matrixbeast]

Originally Posted by coturos

first that last sentence, what?!
second, i could go through and tell u y a lot of those complaints are a little different in my eyes but writing all that through replies would take forever

Please, I'm all ears, er...Eyes. I'd love to see your differing opinion on Decade.