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10-06-2015, 09:54 AM | #21 |
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Ignoring the fact that you probably didn't read our responses...
That argument has no merit since there have been a good number of rangers that were black or green which received quite a lot of focus. Almost every season we have had has featured a black or green ranger and spend the time t give them some focus and development. If you're expecting a non red ranger to be presented as the main color of the show than you're expecting a lot that won't ever really come to fruition. I thought you wanted equality? Saying that a color if off limits does not promote equality and only serves as a way to hold back a writer from going with direction they want. Pink would also not be inappropriate. Why do you think so? Because gay people are presented as feminine and thus pink makes them seem girly? That in itself shows that you have prejudices against homosexuals. Besides, pink is indeed mainly considered a color for girls, but why do we not hear people say it is inappropriate for girls if it is so stereotypical? It could hold down a character who is a woman just as much as you suggest it would for a man. Because it doesn't. There is no color that can or can be used by certain people whether it is because of their skin or personal preferences in terms of sexuality. The age group the show is targeted for may still believe blue is for boys and pink is for girls, but they're young enough to where they wouldn't even be aware of this stereotype your saying is bad. Some gay people are feminine, some aren't. There is no one stereotype and your restriction only shows that you are as uncomfortable with the idea of a gay ranger as you believe others would be and that you truly don't want equality in Power Rangers since according to you only certain people get to use a color. Again, these topics are unimportant and prove nothing and only serve as your platform to say what YOU want and what YOU believe, anybody Else's opinion doesn't matter and is meaningless, especially if it isn't exactly like yours. I think you really need to think about what all you truly want from the show and what isn't just an idea for a fanfic that seems to always be mentioned within your topics. Perhaps then you could think up a discussion truly worth having that won't make the other users go "Ughhh this guy again." MPR wants things to be a certain way but everytime we offer opinions or helpful advice he just shoots us down.XW1 summarized the point of this topic beautifully but time and time again MPR ignores us and our thoughts on his topics. To be honest I'm getting sick of his obsession with having a male Pink Ranger. He has said nothing on why he want this so badly. If he would just take the time to give us some justification as to WHY the world needs a male Pink then perhaps maybe this could see light as something needed. As of right now it's just another topic about something that will never happen, apart from ToQ and Gokai Changes. It's either going to just be in fan fics or remain a dream, but topic after topic about this one thing has gotten old fast. |
10-06-2015, 10:51 AM | #22 |
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To be honest I'm getting sick of his obsession with having a male Pink Ranger. He has said nothing on why he want this so badly. If he would just take the time to give us some justification as to WHY the world needs a male Pink then perhaps maybe this could see light as something needed. After all, Nickelodeon has a character who wears pink, and he isn't gay: Yes, I know that in the series they said Timmy wears pink because his parents wanted a girl, but the true reason is that Butch Hartman's blue marker ran out of ink, thus he decided to use pink instead. Plus, in the live action movies where Timmy was portrayed by Drake Bell, Timmy still wore pink, and those were not women's clothes. BTW, I am not gay, and pink is my signature color. Here is one of my signature looks, partly inspired by the live action version of Timmy Turner, although with a lighter shade of pink: |
10-06-2015, 11:11 AM | #23 |
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The reason I would like a male Pink Ranger is for children to learn that pink is not just for girls. Here in Arizona, I see a lot of men who wear pink shirts, and none of them that I have met are gay. As long as he isn't gay, it would teach children a good message that it is perfectly fine for a man to wear pink.
However you do not use common sense. As I have stated with others multiple times, these topics are basically your soapbox where you can spew your opinion. If any of us disagree or challenge that opinion you simply wave the possible discussion off or tell us that we're wrong because it isn't what you specifically want. You claim to want equality but constantly state that only a specific type of character can utilize what you claim needs to be showcased to show equality. It doesn't really matter if Nickelodeon has a character that wears pink, or if another network has a character wearing pink. The color does not dictate the personality or how they are written, nor does it ensue that they will be a good character from a written standpoint, acting standpoint, or fan reaction standpoint. Your logic is just plain and simply absurd. I'm not sure why you're so fixated on sexuality when it comes to color and characters. Perhaps you're not sure of your own sexuality and your personal preferences to specific colors, so you think up these ideas as a way to dictate how something may be as a way to distract yourself or get out any ill will towards these thoughts. However in the end it doesn't really matter what your reasoning is, the fact of the matter is that you are creating topics as a way to preach your own ideology. Anybody who does not conform or meet your exact thoughts or qualifications do not matter or exist. They are not good for a forum based around discussion if you never acknowledge and discuss, you ignore and go about promoting your own thought process. These topics are all basically the same and if you limited it in the beginning to just one "What Colors Would You Like to See in Power Rangers" topic than really there wouldn't be a problem, though I suspect even there you'd put down other members' opinions. In the end I don't think this is truly about color, no, for your topics always have this overhead question of sexuality in them which is, frankly, unneeded. We may be at a place in time where we're seeing more sexuality hinted at in shows, but that doesn't mean we need it in every show or to be at the forefront of every debate. And considering you're being rather negative in how it has to be executed it just leads to nothing more than a person showing just how insecure they are with that topic, and possibly with themselves. I ask this for all of the members on the forum who have grown very sour of your little "discussions;" please stop creating them. They lead to nothing and offer nothing. Please, once more, just stop.
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10-06-2015, 11:21 AM | #24 |
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I ask this for all of the members on the forum and for the staff which have grown very sour of your little "discussions;" please stop creating them. They lead to nothing and offer nothing and will only lead to your possible forced departure from this site from the staff members and an all around negative opinion of your from our member base. Please, once more, just stop.
Now as you were people...
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10-06-2015, 11:24 AM | #25 |
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I can see a lot of old world parents and soccer moms rioting if this were to ever happen....
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10-06-2015, 01:38 PM | #26 |
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10-06-2015, 01:47 PM | #27 |
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Yeah, I think the shadow of "angry parents" is going to become less and less of a hurdle as time goes on.
I mean, just a few channels over on CN you have one series in which a main character has gay parents, and another in which one of the main characters is a gay relationship. Times are changing, and the attitudes previously preventing things like this from making it to television are changing as well. CN is mostly an outlier so far, of course, but it definitely shows that a network can do this without exploding or having to worry about angry parents... |
10-06-2015, 02:00 PM | #28 |
TN's Resident Gunpla Nut
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Oh yeah, that's right...I've forgotten that Flash has a character that's in a homosexual relationship, and they aren't afraid to remind people either.
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10-06-2015, 03:18 PM | #29 |
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I would honestly not care. It's not that big of a deal what color or preference people have.
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10-06-2015, 04:56 PM | #30 |
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So you want equality for the color pink, but only if it is to YOUR specific requirement. That is not equality, that is simply putting that specific section of people down. If you feel so confident that Power Rangers having a male pink ranger would promote a good message than it shouldn't matter what their character is like correct? I mean you've fixated on the color so much you have not even presented how you think the character should be written. The argument can be made that if it was a gay character it would bring about an "Oh of course" response, but if he's presented and written as a strong character than doesn't it get the same results? Common sense dictates that it would.
However you do not use common sense. As I have stated with others multiple times, these topics are basically your soapbox where you can spew your opinion. If any of us disagree or challenge that opinion you simply wave the possible discussion off or tell us that we're wrong because it isn't what you specifically want. You claim to want equality but constantly state that only a specific type of character can utilize what you claim needs to be showcased to show equality. It doesn't really matter if Nickelodeon has a character that wears pink, or if another network has a character wearing pink. The color does not dictate the personality or how they are written, nor does it ensue that they will be a good character from a written standpoint, acting standpoint, or fan reaction standpoint. Your logic is just plain and simply absurd. I'm not sure why you're so fixated on sexuality when it comes to color and characters. Perhaps you're not sure of your own sexuality and your personal preferences to specific colors, so you think up these ideas as a way to dictate how something may be as a way to distract yourself or get out any ill will towards these thoughts. However in the end it doesn't really matter what your reasoning is, the fact of the matter is that you are creating topics as a way to preach your own ideology. Anybody who does not conform or meet your exact thoughts or qualifications do not matter or exist. They are not good for a forum based around discussion if you never acknowledge and discuss, you ignore and go about promoting your own thought process. These topics are all basically the same and if you limited it in the beginning to just one "What Colors Would You Like to See in Power Rangers" topic than really there wouldn't be a problem, though I suspect even there you'd put down other members' opinions. In the end I don't think this is truly about color, no, for your topics always have this overhead question of sexuality in them which is, frankly, unneeded. We may be at a place in time where we're seeing more sexuality hinted at in shows, but that doesn't mean we need it in every show or to be at the forefront of every debate. And considering you're being rather negative in how it has to be executed it just leads to nothing more than a person showing just how insecure they are with that topic, and possibly with themselves. I ask this for all of the members on the forum who have grown very sour of your little "discussions;" please stop creating them. They lead to nothing and offer nothing. Please, once more, just stop. Not agreeing with MPR, but the "Oh of course" response is likely as far as most people will get when they view a gay ranger + pink. Common sense is surprisingly not as common as we make it out to be.
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