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10-27-2016, 08:12 PM | #3841 |
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Which rider designs do you guys feel were the most wasted?
Imperer had an excellent design that was wasted on a character that was essentially cannon fodder. TheBee never had a consistent user and they pretty much dropped the suit entirely in the latter half of the show. Delta was cool as Kitazaki, but then...err, other guy came in and was completely forgettable (honestly they had like 4 solid candidates for that Rider already in the show and they used none of them).
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10-27-2016, 08:14 PM | #3842 |
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Of all the Toku I've watched, few have conflicted me more then Kamen Rider Blade. Every time I try and sort out why I'm so conflicted about this series, I begin to drown in a sea of questions and confusion. When I first watched the series, I remember being pretty indifferent to Kenzaki. While he wasn't a bad character, he just came across as really dull to me. I've grown to like more as time goes on though. For a show with so much going on at once, its kinda nice to have a...normal(?) guy to act as an audience surrogate. The ending was what really made me reconsider my feels about him and, while he isn't my favorite rider, help me grow to like him much more then I did at first. Hajime, on the other hand, is one of my favorite secondary Riders and the relationship between him and Kenzaki was probably my favorite part of the show. The day I choose to rewatch Blade is certainly going to be an interesting one...
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10-27-2016, 08:34 PM | #3843 |
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Which rider designs do you guys feel were the most wasted?
Imperer had an excellent design that was wasted on a character that was essentially cannon fodder. TheBee never had a consistent user and they pretty much dropped the suit entirely in the latter half of the show. Delta was cool as Kitazaki, but then...err, other guy came in and was completely forgettable (honestly they had like 4 solid candidates for that Rider already in the show and they used none of them). As for wasted designs, I'd say Orga (A sole appearance in an AU movie, until Decade came a long and Diend started throwing every random rider around), Nishiki and Habataki (Same deal as Orga). For non-movie Riders, I gotta say TheBee, because all of his users truly made a name for themselves once they lost the powers, leaving him rather unmemorable outside of his design, Abyss, for nailing the Ryuki look 8 years later, but being part of a shit show, and Gridon, who just never really popped. Unlike Knuckle and Bravo, he didn't really have shining characterization, and unlike Kurokage(Hase), he was never involved in a game changing event. Neat design, but the character inside it was one I never really cared for. Quote:
Of all the Toku I've watched, few have conflicted me more then Kamen Rider Blade. Every time I try and sort out why I'm so conflicted about this series, I begin to drown in a sea of questions and confusion. When I first watched the series, I remember being pretty indifferent to Kenzaki. While he wasn't a bad character, he just came across as really dull to me. I've grown to like more as time goes on though. For a show with so much going on at once, its kinda nice to have a...normal(?) guy to act as an audience surrogate. The ending was what really made me reconsider my feels about him and, while he isn't my favorite rider, help me grow to like him much more then I did at first. Hajime, on the other hand, is one of my favorite secondary Riders and the relationship between him and Kenzaki was probably my favorite part of the show. The day I choose to rewatch Blade is certainly going to be an interesting one...
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10-27-2016, 08:57 PM | #3844 |
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I always had this idea in my head as to how to incorporate Kamen Rider Verde into the full show with a character arc instead of just being a guy in 13 Riders and give Imperor something more to do. Remember how Imperor is the son of a rich guy? In my head, since Verde in 13 Riders was a rich dude, he'd be incorporated into the show as Imperor's dad and they'd have to fight each other, a story arc that I know would be ripe for conflict. Although Verde's not old enough to be his dad, now that I'm checking his wiki page lol. As for good suits wasted on awful characters, could Ghost count? lol. (I haven't seen the show.) Trying to think of characters that weren't in movies or specials in shows I have watched... I can't think of any at the moment that were truly bad. Kamen Rider Beast is the closest one I can think of. Quote:
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10-27-2016, 09:46 PM | #3845 |
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I guess I'd say TheBee was wasted. The suit shared a design aesthetic with Kabuto and Gatack, akin to the whole Ryuki/Knight/Zolda thing of having colored suits, since it was presumably designed earlier on (i.e. some of the later Masked Forms looked a little sloppy, and then they just plain forgot with the Hoppers), but after its initial few episodes it just became nothing. Kageyama had a long stretch as TheBee but Yaguruma left a way bigger impact in just a few appearances, because that was the only time TheBee was actually important. And then they both became more memorable as different Riders anyway, so who cares?
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10-27-2016, 09:47 PM | #3846 |
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Which rider designs do you guys feel were the most wasted?
Imperer had an excellent design that was wasted on a character that was essentially cannon fodder. TheBee never had a consistent user and they pretty much dropped the suit entirely in the latter half of the show. Delta was cool as Kitazaki, but then...err, other guy came in and was completely forgettable (honestly they had like 4 solid candidates for that Rider already in the show and they used none of them).
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10-28-2016, 01:00 PM | #3847 |
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Should Next Kamen Rider after Ex-Aid be start off as ARROGANT and Jerk character?
I feel there too many Main Rider who is idealistic guy. Can we have a-hole Main Rider who only care about himself Look at guys like Iron Man and Doctor Strange, Both of them are kindly a-hole and they're arrogant too I means can at least reverse the personality of Main Rider and Secondary Rider at once? Main Rider should be Arrogant one while Secondary Rider should be Goody Two Shoes When the last time we have Main Rider who start off as Arrogant and Jerk too? Name 1 MAIN Rider! |
10-28-2016, 01:10 PM | #3848 |
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Should Next Kamen Rider after Ex-Aid be start off as ARROGANT and Jerk character?
I feel there too many Main Rider who is idealistic guy. Can we have a-hole Main Rider who only care about himself Look at guys like Iron Man and Doctor Strange, Both of them are kindly a-hole and they're arrogant too I means can at least reverse the personality of Main Rider and Secondary Rider at once? Main Rider should be Arrogant one while Secondary Rider should be Goody Two Shoes When the last time we have Main Rider who start off as Arrogant and Jerk too? Name 1 MAIN Rider!
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10-28-2016, 01:42 PM | #3849 |
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Should Next Kamen Rider after Ex-Aid be start off as ARROGANT and Jerk character?
I feel there too many Main Rider who is idealistic guy. Can we have a-hole Main Rider who only care about himself Look at guys like Iron Man and Doctor Strange, Both of them are kindly a-hole and they're arrogant too I means can at least reverse the personality of Main Rider and Secondary Rider at once? Main Rider should be Arrogant one while Secondary Rider should be Goody Two Shoes When the last time we have Main Rider who start off as Arrogant and Jerk too? Name 1 MAIN Rider!
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10-28-2016, 02:57 PM | #3850 |
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The idealistic/naive/idiot hero is a proper trope which is why they always use them. I also think Toei wants kids to like a hero that is light hearted and won't get the wrong message from them. I think a anti hero main rider may not sell with kids.
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