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05-28-2020, 09:48 PM | #991 |
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05-29-2020, 01:16 AM | #993 |
Kamen Rider Shogeki
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oh hey 100 pages finally
iwaeee
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05-29-2020, 06:03 AM | #994 |
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Route 1 is the Legend Powers, Decade being the Upgrade Form and Grand being the Super Form Route 2 is his own powers growing, Zi-O II is the upgrade and Zi-O Trinity is the Super Form. Both routes merge into Oma Zi-O, so if you wanna get technical. Oma Zi-O is his true final form. |
05-29-2020, 12:19 PM | #995 |
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Depends on how you look at it, Zi-O's got two Upgrade Routes
Route 1 is the Legend Powers, Decade being the Upgrade Form and Grand being the Super Form Route 2 is his own powers growing, Zi-O II is the upgrade and Zi-O Trinity is the Super Form. Both routes merge into Oma Zi-O, so if you wanna get technical. Oma Zi-O is his true final form.
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05-29-2020, 01:23 PM | #996 |
Suprise Gamma Future
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Maybe we should just do away with the concept of a final form. I understand the need for them to sell merchandise, but man I miss just a classic suit and accessories.
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05-29-2020, 02:57 PM | #997 |
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A lot of these power-ups and forms end up being pointless with the many times Riders end up fighting their final fight in their base forms. In Sentai's case the Rangers either finish the fight in their base forms or in civilian form armed with nothing but plot armor and character shields.
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05-29-2020, 03:12 PM | #998 |
Rising above Dreams!
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To be fair, it's justifiable in some cases, like how in Ex-Aid they used the base forms to remind everyone how much of a horrid fighter Cronus is without his time stop ability, or in Fourze where it's after beating the Sagittarius Zodiarts with all of his forms before using his final form, or how in Build both Evolt and Build were devolving into their weaker forms (though I can't explain why Build turned into RabbitDragon that then turned into RabbitTank, since that's a little inexplicable).
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05-29-2020, 03:16 PM | #999 |
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It's debatable when Kamen Rider reached the point of excess with toys (I'd argue somewhere between Wizard and Drive; with W through Fourze managing a very good compromise), but it most certainly is at that point now. Many recent series I could point out a form and a toy that you could very easily have cut and lost little if nothing of significance -- Rabbit/Tank Sparkling; Brave Legacy; Zero-One Shining Assault Hopper... even series with a lot of forms that do manage to have thematic relevance (all of Ghost's upgrades, for instance) it's not hard to imagine that the series would have been even better off with less of them.
It's an issue I've kind of learned to live with, but it does still bug me especially when it becomes predictable what pattern we'll follow and how quickly The Newest Most Powerful Form Evar will fall into irrelevance. I love Build a lot, but Too Many Toys is most certainly an issue with it that I keep grappling with.
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05-29-2020, 03:26 PM | #1000 |
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It's debatable when Kamen Rider reached the point of excess with toys (I'd argue somewhere between Wizard and Drive; with W through Fourze managing a very good compromise), but it most certainly is at that point now. Many recent series I could point out a form and a toy that you could very easily have cut and lost little if nothing of significance -- Rabbit/Tank Sparkling; Brave Legacy; Zero-One Shining Assault Hopper... even series with a lot of forms that do manage to have thematic relevance (all of Ghost's upgrades, for instance) it's not hard to imagine that the series would have been even better off with less of them.
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