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10-24-2020, 07:56 PM | #391 |
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That would be extra unfortunate, since no amount of additional late-series forms would allow the Oni to defeat Sabaki. He's the best of them!
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10-24-2020, 08:02 PM | #392 |
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I certinitly don't want the surpise of Toei retooling Hibiki into an anniversary season in order to win back the kids and also boost merch with Legend Rider toys to be ruined! And that Sabaki was Shocker along!
(Funfact they actually did to that for Skyrider when the 2nd half show started)
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10-24-2020, 08:03 PM | #393 |
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I certinitly don't want the surpise of Toei retooling Hibiki into an anniversary season in order to win back the kids and also boost merch with Legend Rider toys to be ruined! And that Sabaki was Shocker along!
(Funfact they actually did to that for Skyrider when the 2nd half show started)
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10-24-2020, 08:09 PM | #394 |
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That... actually sounds awesome. Now I'm sad thst Toei didn't take the Skyrider option and make the 2nd half an anniversary season.
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10-24-2020, 11:16 PM | #395 |
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI & THE SEVEN ONI
"I've been the object Of your affection And I've been the target Of your cruel intention" -Ex Hex, "How You Got That Girl" INOUE FOREVER. I'm not sure what the bigger giveaway is that this this movie is an Inoue joint: the fact that the major emotional conflict is a huge-to-slight misunderstanding (we'll get to it) that could've/should've been resolved in the an initial meeting; the fact that the plot of this movie makes almost no sense; or the fact that every new character is a complete weirdo. All of the above, if I'm being honest. Inoue's fingerprints, like his work, are not subtle. I mean, I loved it, though, obviously. As a movie, it's fantastic. The story is a delight, the sort of straightforward adventure that the TV series had next to no interest in. The new Oni are hysterical, a group of absolute lunatics who are a thousand miles from the grounded workmen of the series. (I mean, Todoroki comes off as the normal one for this group. Todoroki.) The action is intense, with a finale on one of the Big Bads that's jaw-dropping for how it plays with Hibiki's formula. The costumes for the Oni and monsters are all garish, bigger and crazier than anything else in the series. Everything is just... bigger. Louder. More fun. It's a really great movie. It's a shit Hibiki story, though. Like, thematically, it is nowhere. The story is a pretty basic Overcoming Anger thing, an Inoue hallmark if there ever was one. It's all about Yuuji from Faiz WHOOPS sorry, I meant Kabuki, an Oni who resents being resented by humans, so he wants to be a Makamou. Meanwhile, Asumu In The Past blames Hibiki In The Past for either killing his brother or getting his brother killed, I'm honestly not sure which. (This was an especially murky part of the plot for me. The movie treats it at first like Asumu thinks Hibiki killed Takeshi. Then we see the flashback, where Takeshi dies in an accident. After that, the movie seems to treat it like Asumu knew that Takeshi died by accident, but he blames Hibiki since it was on Hibiki's watch. No one ever directly tells Asumu, so... did he always know? Or not? Either way, while I can sort-of see Hibiki feeling responsible enough for Takeshi's ridiculous death to not defend himself, it is so very Inoue for a character to just let himself be hated for almost no actual reason.) Much of the story is about Asumu getting over his resentment of Hibiki, something that Kabuki could never manage for humanity. That's the parallel. Except, that's literally all in the past. The present-day Asumu, he doesn't really learn anything. There's a moment in the beginning where Hibiki But Right Now gets injured defending Asumu But Right Now. After that, there's this possible thread of Asumu feeling guilty about Hibiki's injuries, but a) it's not borne out in the flashback story, and b) Hibiki But Right Now never once makes Asumu feel responsible. They don't even share another scene until the end. There's a bit of an echo to Takeshi dying, but... man, not really? Asumu's almost killed by a Makamou. Takeshi's killed by a mudslide. These are not comparable situations. The bigger problem is that the Inoue theme of Overcoming Anger, the need to take revenge and put it aside... I don't think that's a thing that kids usually deal with on the path to becoming adults? For a series that's been 100% about the lessons a child needs to learn to become a man, this one... it's a fun theme to explore in a heroic action movie, but it's not super applicable to a teenager in 2005. So, yeah, as a Hibiki story, I'm not sure this one even counts. It's just zero percent trying to work in the same narrative field as the TV series. But, holy hell was it fun. Every single one of the new Oni were a hoot. They're all completely insane, even the Stay-At-Home Dad Oni. (You can tell Inoue didn't give a shit about telling a Hibiki story by the way there's an actual father in the story and it's treated as less relevant than the thief's quest for buried treasure.) They've got outstanding chemistry, enough for a show of their own. They feel individual, you know? They've all got different outlooks and expectations. I had a blast whenever they were onscreen. They're at least four levels too broad to work as Hibiki characters, but they're super entertaining for a movie. The costumes, as well, A+ material but so wrong for the show this movie is supporting. They're massive and complicated and garish, so much so that the TV Riders look underdressed. (Ibuki, Hibiki and Todoroki are basically the Gaim Undersuit to the rest of the Oni's Kachidoki Arms.) But the new guys, especially Kabuki, I love it. The colors, the pageantry, it's so over-the-top that I can't take my eyes off of it. It's theatrical, which is thematically appropriate in several ways. The story is nonsense, and I don't quite mean that as a complaint. There are a hundred things that don't make any sense within the context of what we learned in the series (Midori specifically tells us that Disc Animals were created recently), but since you could say that Asumu's putting some of his imagination into reading this story, I'll allow it. (Kid saw his name and was like This Story Is Clearly About Me And My Friends.) But the Makamou just, like, disappearing for centuries for some reason, to just suddenly reappear one day? And the sword falling into the sea, only to be waiting back in the cave? And just the whole supernatural power-up aspect of the sword (is it supposed to look like a fishing rod?), it's fundamentally not how this show does that stuff. It'd be like if... I was going to say "if a ghost showed up on Ex-Aid", but then I'm like No They Did That In A Movie, so you'll have to come up with your own analogy. It just all feels utterly random and unsupported, something the TV show worked so so so hard not to do. And that's the weird tension of this movie. By raw entertainment standards, it's a success. I laughed a bunch, I loved the action, and the story had a compelling villain with a solid arc. (Something the TV show never managed!) But by the standards of Did It Seem Like A Hibiki Story, it's a massive failure. It seems almost contemptuous of trying to tell a story the TV series would tell, up to and including just setting the whole thing in the past with an entirely new set of characters. Both literally and figuratively, it puts actors you know into roles that are sort-of similar, while constantly reminding you of how it's wrong. It's uncanny valley Hibiki. But I still dug the hell out of it. Inoue forever.
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10-24-2020, 11:56 PM | #396 |
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A ton of fun is exactly how I'd sum up this movie. Just about every Rider summer movie is better off being a standalone adventure that vaguely encapsulates all the show has to offer. The Seven Oni just happens to forgo the part of feeling anything like the TV show, which to be fair, the TV show would proceed to do too at this point forward. This movie is a lot more straightforward an action movie than Missing Ace was (or like, any of the previous movies, actually), but that just means there's no weird plot threads or awkward decisions for me to get hung up on, so plus-plus.
Hibiki breathing fire right into that samurai-looking fellow's mouth, his showdown with Kabuki, all seven heroes consecutively performing their finishers on the big bad Makamou, and even shiny new action-figure Hibiki cutting down the big CGI monster are all basically ingrained into mind. It's incredibly entertaining the way a yearly tokusatsu in the summer should be. Just chew on some popcorn and watch things go pop. Bet he immediately felt bad when the girl he decided was Akira got eaten really early in the story. "Whoops. Maybe I should have held off my casting for a little bit." |
10-25-2020, 12:18 AM | #397 |
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A ton of fun is exactly how I'd sum up this movie. Just about every Rider summer movie is better off being a standalone adventure that vaguely encapsulates all the show has to offer. The Seven Oni just happens to forgo the part of feeling anything like the TV show, which to be fair, the TV show would proceed to do too at this point forward. This movie is a lot more straightforward an action movie than Missing Ace was (or like, any of the previous movies, actually), but that just means there's no weird plot threads or awkward decisions for me to get hung up on, so plus-plus.
Hibiki breathing fire right into that samurai-looking fellow's mouth, his showdown with Kabuki, all seven heroes consecutively performing their finishers on the big bad Makamou, and even shiny new action-figure Hibiki cutting down the big CGI monster are all basically ingrained into mind. It's incredibly entertaining the way a yearly tokusatsu in the summer should be. Just chew on some popcorn and watch things go pop. His mom was cast as a hateful villager, so, uh... what in the hell is going on with Asumu?
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10-25-2020, 01:00 AM | #398 |
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Full disclosure, I've only seen the film once. Not because of the creative staff, though, just because it's a lot longer than a standard episode and I don't always have that much time to set aside. I remember liking it a lot, though. Like all the other Heisei movies so far, this one isn't canon to the series and it has some noticeable differences, especially in where the final form comes in. It's relatively close, though - no dystopian parallel universe here.
The plot is... well, it's The Seven Samurai with Kamen Riders. There's no way to really pretend otherwise, it's even in the title. It still works, though. It's a good basic story and it plays out really nicely to throw the Hibiki cast and some new guys into it. Add in some silly costumes (oh, Touki...) and a traitor and you've got yourself a really fun film. |
10-25-2020, 01:08 AM | #399 |
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Full disclosure, I've only seen the film once. Not because of the creative staff, though, just because it's a lot longer than a standard episode and I don't always have that much time to set aside. I remember liking it a lot, though. Like all the other Heisei movies so far, this one isn't canon to the series and it has some noticeable differences, especially in where the final form comes in. It's relatively close, though - no dystopian parallel universe here.
The plot is... well, it's The Seven Samurai with Kamen Riders. There's no way to really pretend otherwise, it's even in the title. It still works, though. It's a good basic story and it plays out really nicely to throw the Hibiki cast and some new guys into it. Add in some silly costumes (oh, Touki...) and a traitor and you've got yourself a really fun film. But, nope, it's just a weirdo Seven Samurai lark, with the barest minimum of bookending with the actual Hibiki series. It's fun, and stupid, and barely trying to have anything to do with either the core narrative or the relevant themes of the show it's drawing from. But fun, though. Fun as anything.
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10-25-2020, 03:02 AM | #400 |
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Not much to say here. It’s one of those “and you were there” movies that’s a patiche of the Seven Samurai. What I can say is that there’s a theme to the new Oni in this film.
Touki (Freezing Demon) and his polar bear motif are a reference to the Hokkaido-Nippon Ham Fighters. Habataki (Feathered Demon) takes his hawk motif from the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks. Nishiki (Western Demon) takes his motif from the Osaka baseball team Hanshin Tigers. Kirameki (Glittering Demon) gets his look from the Nagoya Grampus’ image animal, the whale. And Kabuki (Festive Demon) is the odd one out, but he’s meant to represent Edo, the entertainment capital during the era the movie is set in (now known better as Tokyo). Also, can we talk about how they had rock guitars and trumpets back during those segments? At least the Disc Animals in the scene are classed as Karakuri (a robot made of wood, to put it in layman’s terms). |
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