[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Frontier

Wherever they're streaming it, I just want to know when it's premiering...

September 7th. First Sunday of September, like every premiere since Build.

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Originally Posted by Tokumonkey

This comment made me miss the days of two Riders SO much. I often feel like I got into Kamen Rider five seconds after it hit a sweet spot. (The transition between Wizard and Gaim. I loved Gaim, but it seemed like that was the exact moment the tie-in toys turned into a flood.)

I think the ideal amount of Riders depends on the show, like, Saber and Geats wouldn't really work with only 2, whereas Kabuto and Revice could've cut out some of them for a cleaner narrative. Den-O, Double, OOO and Fourze are kind of weird for only having 2, but it totally works for them!

Bringing that point back to the topic of Zeztz, I'm curious about the identity of the Secondary Rider, this rumored Yezz guy. The rumor says it's Nox, but I noticed his actor is a little older than average, even older than Iwanaga as Birth. It would be a record-breaker if this is true.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

The rumor says it's Nox, but I noticed his actor is a little older than average, even older than Iwanaga as Birth. It would be a record-breaker if this is true.

I don't really believe in Nox as Yezz either. With his suit and hair he has the typical asshole villain vibe aka entry level boss. I can see a character like that becoming tertiary, but not secondary.

[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

I don't really believe in Nox as Yezz either. With his suit and hair he has the typical asshole villain vibe aka entry level boss. I can see a character like that becoming tertiary, but not secondary.

Good point. His bio describing him as the source of the Nightmare appearances sounds too villainous for a Secondary Rider. Not that we haven't had Secondaries start as villains before, but never as the main threat.

[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

September 7th. First Sunday of September, like every premiere since Build.

I meant more the literal time in PST...but thanks!

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I think the ideal amount of Riders depends on the show, like, Saber and Geats wouldn't really work with only 2, whereas Kabuto and Revice could've cut out some of them for a cleaner narrative. Den-O, Double, OOO and Fourze are kind of weird for only having 2, but it totally works for them!

Bringing that point back to the topic of Zeztz, I'm curious about the identity of the Secondary Rider, this rumored Yezz guy. The rumor says it's Nox, but I noticed his actor is a little older than average, even older than Iwanaga as Birth. It would be a record-breaker if this is true.

There's still the mystery of that Rider from Girls Remix II.

[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Convoluted plot devices that don't support the narrative, like all the meta nonsense in KR Chronicle, Isamu's false memories, JyamaDaichi getting emotions from memories, Jit being a proxy for Suel, etc. Also exaggerated happy endings that don't make sense, like Emu getting infected by the Parado virus again or Aruto bringing back "Izu" after all that talk about hearts being something that cannot be replaced.

Zitt one is about real life/production stuff, where Ryuji Sato is a popular stage actor, and agency contract with Toei plays out, he has been consistently getting acting gigs for years now so Toei was happy to have the actor appear and tries to use his appearance as much as he can, like specific fights regarding him. Just saying that there can be numerous factors that apply into the show too aside from writing. I actually thought Parado should be able to regenerate because Bugsters are established to be able to do so.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Maybe people don't like his a**hole traits, or his betrayal arc. My favorite Hiiro moment is his awesome debut as Brave Level 50 against Gatton, so it does feel like he goes backwards after that, turning against his own principles that he acted so self-righteous about. Similar to Holy Live, it's ironic how Level 100 looks heroic but is more known for being a villain.

I meant about how Hiiro feels bland and forgettable to watch, like Riders such as Mihara, Goto (for you at least), Yua, or Daiji (the hate is like Daiji pre-his heel turn for this though). I also think that the Brave lv. 50 debut was cool, but it's KR staple to have the debut fighting scene use flashy powers, but later on, they aren't utilized, resorting to simple choreography.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Yeah, there's no way Bandai would allow such a thing in the Reiwa Era. More Riders = More Profit! Besides, Takahashi needs a Rider to kill on Christmas, unless a civilian will suffice.

Maybe civilian will suffice, it's about perhaps general tragedy for ironic Christmas, not Riders.

[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Frontier

There's still the mystery of that Rider from Girls Remix II.

Speaking of which!

We got Shizuka, Sara and Koyomi. Hasta la vista Aguilera. Best lineup so far, IMO.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Zitt one is about real life/production stuff, where Ryuji Sato is a popular stage actor, and agency contract with Toei plays out, he has been consistently getting acting gigs for years now so Toei was happy to have the actor appear and tries to use his appearance as much as he can, like specific fights regarding him. Just saying that there can be numerous factors that apply into the show too aside from writing.

Fair enough, but I would've preferred it if they found a way to integrate Jit in the story less superfluously and make him an actual character. He did get a better role than Samas at least, who betrayed and then died pathetically with nothing in between.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

I actually thought Parado should be able to regenerate because Bugsters are established to be able to do so.

Bugsters, like all viruses, are able to regenerate by infecting a host and then jumping to a new host when the previous one gains immunity. Emu's immune system should've prevented Parado from infecting him a second time.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

I meant about how Hiiro feels bland and forgettable to watch, like Riders such as Mihara, Goto (for you at least), Yua, or Daiji (the hate is like Daiji pre-his heel turn for this though). I also think that the Brave lv. 50 debut was cool, but it's KR staple to have the debut fighting scene use flashy powers, but later on, they aren't utilized, resorting to simple choreography.

Hiiro has the cake cutting quirk though and Yua has the letter of resignation punch, which is at least more memorable than Mihara, Gotou and good guy Daiji, whose turn to insanity left a strong impression, but not a favorable one. Honestly though, I also think poorly about Hiiro and Yua, which is unfortunate since I think there was potential for them.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Maybe civilian will suffice, it's about perhaps general tragedy for ironic Christmas, not Riders.

Or the sentient bike, which has precedent.

[Paladin]

[Paladin]

Zeztz can be viewed from Shout! Studios & TokuShoutSu Saturdays at 7:30 PT.

https://x.com/kamenrider_en/status/1961949597095579705

[GoldenXtreme]

I'm glad it seems like they went with Shout for the English subtitles. In the back of my mind I was afraid Toei would go with machine translation, but Shout has been consistently excellent with their work on Rider and the promo they put on their Youtube channel looks to be as good as ever. With translation quality assured, I'm now locking in to stream it live. See everyone.in the episode threads next week!

[Switchblade]

I don't love having to watch the show on a specific day and time like a goddamn cave person, but I respect them going with Shout on this.