[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Well what is Zeztz driven by, then? And I mean, I'm actually not sure what the answer would be. Are we really sure this show isn't trying to let the characters dictate the story more than the other way around? Something I thought was very strange as I was watching this episode was how quickly it almost totally pivoted away from big the Plot revelations NOX keeps hinting at. I wondered why Baku had no further questions, no scene where he asks Zero about even one little thing... and then I thought, you know, maybe that actually shows how seriously Takahashi was considering Baku's emotions and personality above just feeding more facts about Capsems and Nightmares to viewers? Because there's a pretty solid argument to be made that Baku would actively dodge the subject as much as possible, for a few different reasons, and the episode still puts his whole emotional struggle at the center, mostly waiting until the end to do further shocking twists.

I definitely think it's character driven - in the sense that it's driven by Baku - and the reason he didn't ask Zero about anything NOX said was he was too caught up in being unable to stop him or the damage done to Seiya's dreams. I genuinely don't think he took NOX's words seriously.

I do wonder if the tertiary is going to end up being one of the other Agents who have gone rogue or maybe Code Number 08 who is meant to replace Baku.

[StardustWhip]

- "Thankfully nobody was hurt." I guess I didn't expect that Kamen Rider would delve into the consequences of a dream meteor destroying an entire building like that, but it does make me giggle to hear them explicitly reassuring the kids at home like this. Reminds me of Power Rangers and its Abandoned Warehouse District.

- As expected, there seems to be some tension between Baku and Fujimi over Odaka/Nox. And not resolved by the end of the episode either; I have to wonder if Fujimi will refuse to accept Odaka's ties to the case until he sees his snazzy new (anti-)villain form for himself. Or otherwise sees irrefutable evidence of Odaka's heel turn.

- ...TBH I thought that was a picture of an actual James Bond actor, in the poster on Baku's wall. I had to go back and pause to get a second look and confirm it wasn't.

- At first I thought that the whole revelation of CODE/Capsems being bad was just getting brushed under the rug, but after seeing the consequences of Baku finishing off the giant meteor man monster, that doesn't seem to be the case. At least not entirely.

I wasn't just kidding when I thought that Zero would be immune to twist villainy based on being so closely tied to Zeztz, even serving as his motorcycle. But he's just looking more and more sus, between his lack of concern at Baku's seeming death ("Mission complete. Humanity's extinction was prevented.") and his death threats towards Minami if she snitches on him. And now it seems like, at the very least, the conflict between Zero/CODE and Nox is much more grey than it would've seemed at first.

Right now I'm predicting that CODE will ultimately serve as the main villainous force with Zeztz and Nox teaming up against it, albeit with Zero himself potentially turning to/staying on the side of good. Or if he is evil, then Zeztz and friends will manage to break Zero's connection to the CODE Zeroider.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by StardustWhip

- ...TBH I thought that was a picture of an actual James Bond actor, in the poster on Baku's wall. I had to go back and pause to get a second look and confirm it wasn't.

I'm reminded of Blue Fire, where, while the hero is watching Rocky, they show a re-shot scene with Japanese actors. Apparently, they were being overly cautious because of copyright issues.

[GoldenXtreme]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Well what is Zeztz driven by, then? And I mean, I'm actually not sure what the answer would be. Are we really sure this show isn't trying to let the characters dictate the story more than the other way around? Something I thought was very strange as I was watching this episode was how quickly it almost totally pivoted away from big the Plot revelations NOX keeps hinting at. I wondered why Baku had no further questions, no scene where he asks Zero about even one little thing... and then I thought, you know, maybe that actually shows how seriously Takahashi was considering Baku's emotions and personality above just feeding more facts about Capsems and Nightmares to viewers? Because there's a pretty solid argument to be made that Baku would actively dodge the subject as much as possible, for a few different reasons, and the episode still puts his whole emotional struggle at the center, mostly waiting until the end to do further shocking twists.

My own take on what I think Zeztz's story is driven by is its sense of mystery and drama I suppose. Both in the episodic plots and overarching narrative the show is often intentionally trying to obscure things in order to create a sense of confusion and intrigue. In the process, I do feel like the cast are often just reduced to pieces Yuuya Takahashi is manuering around so that things can be more and more dramatic and to bring up further questions. Why do characters not ask questions sooner? Mystery. Why did Zero insist on the secret identity thing? Drama. The characters are just there to fuel the mystery in my eyes, they aren't fleshed out much as people beyond some very basic stuff about their motivations so far. This isn't a terrible approach, but man, you better be giving me some DAMN good mystery and drama if you are doing this. I do think my sense of exasperation at having to deal with the same writer every third show for so long is showing, but for as much as I think Takahashi can do some really good character drama I also think he has a tendency to get overly invested in his own twists at the expense of the progression feeling natural.

Mulled this over for a while before posting, I hope it makes some amount of sense. If Zeztz is accomplishing one thing consistently, it is getting confused and disparate reactions out of viewers.