Kamen Rider Die rewatches Kamen Rider Fourze

Kamen Rider Die · Today, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Outside of Libra threatening other Horoscopes to obey him, Libra also insists that he takes credit for the faction's achievement like finding Goto.

We are in a phase of the show where Gamou and Leo treat the Dark Nebula like it's got a daily quota, so I think Hayami is just trying to reiterate his worth before he gets put on the 9:55 to the Zodiart Zone. (Also, Hayami is a self-aggrandizing creep.)

Fish Sandwich · Today, 05:44 PM

This probably isn't a two-parter that immediately comes to mind for me when I think of my favorite Fourze stories, but it is one I like quite a bit, so I'm happy to see Die singing its praises in spite/because of the way it focuses in on a supporting character he's generally not otherwise that excited about.

It really does just kinda come together super nicely, as a story that makes sense for JK, and for the show? Taking his whole frivolous partying side, for example, and then expanding that into music specifically as a big theme, letting the sorta mood and tropes that come with that territory color the whole tone in a way that helps it stand apart from other Fourze two-parters -- like, it's hard to really say when it's been a while since I've seen it, but I recall this one feeling particularly... cohesive, I guess. Like there's just this particularly clear intent to the script, which would definitely line up with the way Die is talking about it.

Kamen Rider Die · Today, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Like there's just this particularly clear intent to the script, which would definitely line up with the way Die is talking about it.

Yeah, it even gets to end in a very melancholy and final way, like Gene was an actual cast member. Normally, you'd end a thing like this with an upbeat Remember Why You Wanted To Sing montage, where JK rediscovers his love of performing with Gotou, and he trains a little harder to be good on his own merits instead of due to the proximity of cosmic energy/drug metaphors, and it's all very hopeful and open-ended. This one... definitely goes the other way! JK acknowledges that Gen asked him to keep at music, and he said no, preferring to leave it in the past and let his future reveal itself through his friendships. It's letting the musical aspirations be a way he was trying to find meaning, but that meaning became kind of a self-destructive trap, when the real meaning happened without him even realizing it. There's a maturity to that, and again: this was a JK story!!!

Today, 05:21 PM	#411
Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,995	Quote: Originally Posted by DreadBringer Outside of Libra threatening other Horoscopes to obey him, Libra also insists that he takes credit for the faction's achievement like finding Goto. We are in a phase of the show where Gamou and Leo treat the Dark Nebula like it's got a daily quota, so I think Hayami is just trying to reiterate his worth before he gets put on the 9:55 to the Zodiart Zone. (Also, Hayami is a self-aggrandizing creep.) __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!

Today, 05:44 PM	#412
Fish Sandwich The Immortal King Tasty Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Every diner you've ever been to. Posts: 4,154	This probably isn't a two-parter that immediately comes to mind for me when I think of my favorite Fourze stories, but it is one I like quite a bit, so I'm happy to see Die singing its praises in spite/because of the way it focuses in on a supporting character he's generally not otherwise that excited about. It really does just kinda come together super nicely, as a story that makes sense for JK, and for the show? Taking his whole frivolous partying side, for example, and then expanding that into music specifically as a big theme, letting the sorta mood and tropes that come with that territory color the whole tone in a way that helps it stand apart from other Fourze two-parters -- like, it's hard to really say when it's been a while since I've seen it, but I recall this one feeling particularly... cohesive, I guess. Like there's just this particularly clear intent to the script, which would definitely line up with the way Die is talking about it. __________________

Today, 05:52 PM	#413
Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,995	Quote: Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich Like there's just this particularly clear intent to the script, which would definitely line up with the way Die is talking about it. Yeah, it even gets to end in a very melancholy and final way, like Gene was an actual cast member. Normally, you'd end a thing like this with an upbeat Remember Why You Wanted To Sing montage, where JK rediscovers his love of performing with Gotou, and he trains a little harder to be good on his own merits instead of due to the proximity of cosmic energy/drug metaphors, and it's all very hopeful and open-ended. This one... definitely goes the other way! JK acknowledges that Gen asked him to keep at music, and he said no, preferring to leave it in the past and let his future reveal itself through his friendships. It's letting the musical aspirations be a way he was trying to find meaning, but that meaning became kind of a self-destructive trap, when the real meaning happened without him even realizing it. There's a maturity to that, and again: this was a JK story!!! __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!