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08-01-2021, 02:23 AM | #11 |
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The scene at the end is so fucking beautiful. That's something I could never say no to even if it literally became a fucking tradition. Even people who feel nothing for Saber will feel something for that. What a treat, man.
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08-01-2021, 02:57 AM | #12 |
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Oddly enough, it isn't and it's something that I wish was! We need more of these moments of the cast reflecting, preparing, and making their goodbyes before heading off to the final battle.
I'm now kind of disappointed that there's not a scene of this in Zero-One apart from maybe Raiden confronting Horobi. Like, a scene or two with Aruto and Horobi thinking about stuff before heading out to fight, or Fuwa contemplating before facing off against Zero Two. |
08-01-2021, 04:48 AM | #13 |
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Oddly enough, it isn't and it's something that I wish was! We need more of these moments of the cast reflecting, preparing, and making their goodbyes before heading off to the final battle.
I'm now kind of disappointed that there's not a scene of this in Zero-One apart from maybe Raiden confronting Horobi. Like, a scene or two with Aruto and Horobi thinking about stuff before heading out to fight, or Fuwa contemplating before facing off against Zero Two. there's no way revice could possibly have a scene like this due to its premise and dynamic(still would welcome it ofc) but god damn our future series really need to take a note from this. it almost feels not kamen rider-like to me at all. I think the last moment that vaguely reminded me of this was drive, but that's still pretty different in a lot of ways including the fact it didn't occur at the end of the episode. anyways sorry to gush but that whole moment felt SO 2000s to me, so I'm probably just feeling nostalgic as fuck. Last edited by Chasing; 08-01-2021 at 05:10 AM.. |
08-01-2021, 05:21 AM | #14 |
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there's no way revice could possibly have a scene like this due to its premise and dynamic(still would welcome it ofc) but god damn our future series really need to take a note from this. it almost feels not kamen rider-like to me at all. I think the last moment that vaguely reminded me of this was drive, but that's still pretty different in a lot of ways including the fact it didn't occur at the end of the episode. . Also, this whole scene reminded me more of Build. The only difference is that it's not a get-together with the riders and more of their personal lives. While also getting ready for their "Storm the tower" mission tomorrow that they all might not make it alive. Very Build-esque. My only tiny tiny tiny tiny gripes is a FEW MORE SECONDS. Have Daishinji talk with Sophia, and Ogami with Haruka before leaving. Edit: Also, I love how Ren is the 4th closest to Touma in the lineup instead of, like, Yuri. He's my true quartermary rider now and forever. Last edited by TheRaizin; 08-01-2021 at 05:26 AM.. |
08-01-2021, 10:46 AM | #15 |
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Really curious about the beginning of the episode though cause that editing was a bit odd. I feel like it implied that Storious just decided to move the story abruptly or something?
Regardless this was a real good episode, a quick but very effective fight at the beginning to show just how powerful this miniboss squad is alongside a demonstration of Storious' power. And it's believable that Storious would be able to overpower Xross Saber too. While Xross Saber was powerful and it could beat Solomon, that was mostly just it edging it out most of the time. So combine Omniforce with three other Megid Leader Books, a big piece of the Great Book which we've seen turn into upgrade forms before, alongside the possible thousands of human souls trapped in books? Yeah no that's absolutely going to be more powerful. Then the rest of the episode is basically showcasing everyone slowly but surely preparing for the battle. There are some things I'm thinking might happen but I'll keep quiet on that for now. Still, the fact that we forgo the normal ED and Preview sequences just to keep the atmosphere rolling is honestly really good. That final sequence of everyone silently walking towards the tower as dawn begins to rise is an absolutely great sequence. They are ready to beat the hell out of Storious, and probably get some McDonalds (as bts pics have shown us lol) Overall a great setup for our final three episodes. |
08-01-2021, 11:38 AM | #16 |
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Man someone's gonna be soooooo pissed that Mei is not Calibur. On the other hand, love that Sophia is Calibur.
Considering that Sophia is in some ways Luna, not only this is the closest to Touma and Luna fighting together, but them sharing the same dragon motif is fitting.
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08-01-2021, 01:19 PM | #17 |
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Are we sure that Kenko isn't our secondary rider? His interaction with Touko is totally full of chemistry since the begining.
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08-01-2021, 01:51 PM | #18 |
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08-01-2021, 01:59 PM | #19 |
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There's few times when the feeling of a show literally just makes my mind explode. This was one of those times.
The angles, shots, music, tempo, characterizations, all of it were just beautiful. I can't wait for some of the others to finish weighing in on this, because if I were going to explain to someone what a Kamen Rider show was about, this would be the episode I'd point them to.
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08-01-2021, 03:22 PM | #20 |
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Well, there was a bit of a break there, but Saber is pressing forward once again, and it's good to be back!
And hey, speaking of being back, I've gotta hand it to the show for thinking to have the sages from Sword of Logos become zombie mini-bosses for the final arc? That's such a beautiful example of how simultaneously manic and elegant Saber's plotting can be, and I love it. Because it was sort of weird, right, how the show introduced that whole concept and then brushed it under the rug immediately after? But then now it's suddenly relevant again, in a completely different context? It's insane, as a way to structure a story, for sure, but I also think it's genuinely commendable at the same time how often Saber goes out of its way to pick up random loose plot threads and tie them more into the overall story. There's a real sense the show tries not to let anything go to waste, even if there ends up being a big gap between the setup and the payoff. And as a mini-boss squad to give everyone in the ensemble someone to fight, this is a strong concept, I feel. It's not exactly making it more personal than usual, per se, but there's a specific concept here -- master swordsmen under Storious' complete control -- that's a lot more defined and easy to grasp the weight of than if he just had a bunch of strong monsters with the gimmick of being strong. It's something I've long appreciated about the way fight scenes are constructed in Saber, where the drama of them often focuses more on the skills and abilities everyone has rather than their raw power. It makes for a great little battle watching these four dudes just sending everything that gets thrown their way right back at the heroes. (And while I'm on the topic of that fight, I'd like to mention Touma just smashing the button on the Xross Saber with his entire fist when he sees Storious about to blow them all up. I don't call attention to Kousuke Asai's suit acting in this show anywhere near as much as I ought to, but characterful moments like this are all over the place, and they always make me so happy to see every time. Apparently this one was extra impressive to me, for whatever reason, too, if it finally got me to bring this subject up again.) Kamen Rider Storious is also pretty cool! There's definitely a part of me that feels he's one of those bad guys that really doesn't need to be a Rider in the first place, but hey, Solomon won me over eventually, and I also like that new (well, "new") suit so much I might be willing to pay the price of having that title continue to be thrown around so casually. It's just a new head on an eviler looking cheap repaint of Solomon's already cheaply repainted body, I know, but I still maintain that body works great, and that new head counts for a lot. Stroious' horns were always my favorite part of his monster suit, and his face was my least favorite, so the new look is seriously appealing to me. I think the book faceplate shtick is awesome; totally devoid of any emotion in a way that makes him seem so much more inhuman and intimidating, and a plain clever use of a big motif for the series to boot. Sort of surprisingly to me though, even though it shouldn't be, is that despite being the big debut of a cool new suit and squad of goons for the final villain, this episode places most of its focus simply on the emotions of all the protagonists in reaction to that development. That fight is maybe like five minutes at most early on, and from there out the episode is almost exclusively people talking to each other. And it's REALLY good! Like, seriously, this episode kind of floored me with how admirably it took that huge ensemble and gave almost all of them a proper "thing" to do. It all starts with Kento specifically being the first one to give a pep talk back at the base when everyone is feeling down, which is very true to his arc, as he gave up on giving up a while ago, and would naturally no longer be swayed by the thought that there's nothing they can do to save the world. You get to see the Shindai workout routine, and Ryouga showing what qualifies as politeness for him at the moment. (He's learning!) Daishinji's working on swords while Ogami's looking out for the younger crowd, and his family too. Kento checks in on Ren, who's clearly doing a lot better now. Rintarou and Mei get a scene together because heck yeah the show hasn't forgotten about that either. And then you've got a really touching meeting where Touma, Kento, and Luna get to finally reaffirm their friendship after so long apart, a scene that runs the gamut from the comedy of Touma playing pretend yet again, to the sorrow and catharsis of him expressing his regret over failing to keep that promise all those years ago, with the through-line of those disparate tones being the ever important human warmth at the center of Saber that makes me adore it the way I do. Absolutely wonderful scene all around. "But it isn't it kinda weird that Luna--" Yeah a little! But really, it's to the credit of how touching and heartfelt that scene is that I'm mostly ambivalent about Luna just kind of randomly being a different person partway into it. Like, I sort of see the vague outline of why the show wanted to do this the complicated way it did; why having her still be a small child was helpful then but not now, and how it maybe reflects this sort of idea they've been building of Luna becoming more consciously aware of her own existence and all that. I'm not exactly opposed to the idea, and the way that scene plays everything is so perfect that it can only make me even more okay with it. And then and then, the episodes truly ends with yet another new vocal song popping out of the blue in the last quarter, (with lyrics by Shouko Fujibayashi again because Saber just likes me I guess), even replacing the normal ending theme for a really somber yet determined sequence of everyone readying themselves for the battle ahead, and I mean, where do I even start? I really liked that Touma was holding Rekka there instead of the Xross Saber, for one. I loved how nonverbal the camaraderie was throughout, especially with how Reika, Ryouga, and Ren all join the group as they're walking along. Just in general, the way it's shot is brilliant, something no doubt thanks to Sugihara's particular skills as a director. And then there's how the lyrics sync up with what's on-screen. ...There's such a weight to it all. It's a scene that's hard to imagine coming from any other Rider show out there the same way, and I can imagine it even less in a Sentai. It's Saber completely owning all the hard work it did over the past year, building this group up, tearing it apart, and building it up all over again even bigger, to make you feel the impact of just... nine people walking along the street. That's literally all it is, but it's like the important thing ever, because it's Saber, a show were the heroes working together for the common good can't be taken for granted, and yet is also inevitable. This show is the best.
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