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06-15-2013, 02:05 PM | #21 |
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I love the ending to GekiRanger. I love how Rio and Mele sacrificed themselves, but my problem is how they lower that with the crossover movie just for fanservice (which they did with the DekavsAba movie for Killer too). Anyway, that is the movie and those really aren't part of continuity. THe final battle with Long is awesome and it is nice to see a villain that was just a straight up villain without some tragic backstory to it. Don't get me wrong, I love it when they can make villains have nicely done backstories, as it gives more to their character, but there are times I just want a good old fashioned down right evil villain who is evil just to be evil.
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06-15-2013, 04:06 PM | #22 |
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I love the ending to GekiRanger. I love how Rio and Mele sacrificed themselves, but my problem is how they lower that with the crossover movie just for fanservice (which they did with the DekavsAba movie for Killer too). Anyway, that is the movie and those really aren't part of continuity. THe final battle with Long is awesome and it is nice to see a villain that was just a straight up villain without some tragic backstory to it. Don't get me wrong, I love it when they can make villains have nicely done backstories, as it gives more to their character, but there are times I just want a good old fashioned down right evil villain who is evil just to be evil.
And I don't really feel it ruins the death when the characters return from the after life to help out the other heroes knowing they have to stay dead after. Abare Killer had to go back to hell (at the time being it's most powerful denizen) and as I recall Rio and Mele had to as well. It's just a by product of the plot but it's always cool to see dead heroes return even temporarily.
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06-15-2013, 04:48 PM | #23 |
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It doesn't explain where the hell they came from in 199 Heroes, though, especially since Geki Vs. Go-On explicitly states The technique used to revive them only works once.
Like, I have no problem with them returning, because I love them, but I don't like how Gokai handled the dead characters. "They can just come back to life because shut up they can now."
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06-15-2013, 05:33 PM | #24 |
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It doesn't explain where the hell they came from in 199 Heroes, though, especially since Geki Vs. Go-On explicitly states The technique used to revive them only works once.
Like, I have no problem with them returning, because I love them, but I don't like how Gokai handled the dead characters. "They can just come back to life because shut up they can now."
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06-15-2013, 10:10 PM | #25 |
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And why exactly aren't they continuity? There's literally nothing in that film that contradicts either series at all. It's an official epilogue to Gekiranger and takes place in the earlier part of Go-Onger. I don't know where this idea of VS movies never being cannon comes from but I've heard plenty of people say it. As far as I'm concerned they're cannon unless something featured there or in the respective shows could contradict it's existence.
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06-15-2013, 10:32 PM | #26 |
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06-15-2013, 11:20 PM | #27 |
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Even in the Gaoranger movie they had a massive team up to establish a shared continuity, albeit a loose one. Previous heroes of various colors from many generations teaming up with the current ones, even explaining the history of how sentai in the past have triumphed to their successors. One show has a crossover with the previous one, which then has a crossover with the next, then that one with the next, all of them are connected via those crossovers. There's no reason why they can't be.
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06-15-2013, 11:42 PM | #28 |
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Except Gokaiger's crossovers are constantly contradicting the ending, making it hard to take them as canon.
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06-15-2013, 11:56 PM | #29 |
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Having some dead guys like Rio, Mele, Black Condor, Dragon Ranger, Abare Killer, Time Fire, etc appear for crossovers doesn't seem that illogical to me. After Shurikenger died at the end of Hurricanger he quite literally just showed up in the Gao/Huri vs movie and was okay. Black Condor came from heaven to help the Gokaigers because he felt like it. Hell in Gaoranger Yellow Blue Black and White died horrible deaths in front of Red and Silver. And were only revived because Gao God let them face a series of challenges on the other side. We can apply the logic that something similar happened to allow the dead senshi to return for the Legend War. Or that because the world needed them they were given free passes to help defend it.
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06-15-2013, 11:58 PM | #30 |
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I wasn't talking about the users' status of living or dead this time around.
>Ends a series with all the Ranger Keys returned to their original users, including those of deceased characters >Gokai changes like mad in post-series movies. And then they tried to explain Gai getting a whooping 5 keys meant they could change into every team ever again.
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