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03-05-2023, 07:50 AM | #971 |
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A lot of good things have already been said about this film, so I can only join in. The best crossover rider and sentai, one of the best crossover rider and definitely deserves a place in my top movies. I love watching it too.
I also want to note that the creators of SHS found themselves in a difficult position. On the one hand, the 50th anniversary of the franchise required a big story, and the very nature of Saber and Zenkaiger implied a meta-commentary. On the other hand, Generations Forever and Over Quartzer were already a love letter from the riders to their viewers, and by adding Sentai they risked breaking the 4th wall Taisen, which they clearly didn't want. Therefore, it was decided to turn to Shotaro Ishinomori and create a film for him and about him. Hence the details like the mention of characters that look angry or Shotaro from the movie being embarrassed in front of Mei because she fits his favorite type of heroine. I also want to mention Asmodeus. In such a big crossover, the villain is doomed to remain in the shadows, but his plan was not bad, and the moment when he points Shotaro to the fighting heroes and asks if he likes what he sees is very good. Indeed, what better way to make a person give up on superheroes than to throw him into their world? Especially during another global fan-service brawl. In addition, I note that in this film, Saber becomes the most important hero in the franchise, because it is he who inspires Shotaro to return to creativity, which means that without his intervention there would be no riders, no sentai, not even Zubat. Amazing if you think about it! So I will repeat once again that I love this film and finally I will drop my favorite shot from there. Even though it has nothing to do with Saber or even riders, it doesn't change how good this moment is: Fanfiction is also very good, to match this wonderful movie. Last edited by Mesnick; 03-05-2023 at 02:29 PM.. |
03-05-2023, 11:42 AM | #972 |
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10/10 crossover no notes. But yeah, I appreciate how this film basically takes the exact same starting point as the Zi-O/Build crossover ("Kamen Rider may be fictional, but we're important to something to someone, which means we're not meaningless!") and puts its own spin on things. Not just by being really fun, but by directly involving Ishinomori and Touma's own voice as a writer, it perfectly aligns. Also, I get what you're saying, about the final battle being a long string of catchphrases (said by some incrdibly bad sound-alikes, Jesus Toei, was your stock library being cleaned that day?) being Toei boasting about how Kamen Sentai is the best thing ever, but I've been thinking about it - Sure, Rider/Sentai might from one angle be a tool to sell impressionable kids some merch, but also, merchandising franchises come and go. These characters, and indeed those catchphrases, wouldn't mean anything to anyone if the writers and characters and stories were just a vessel to sell toys in the minds of everyone. That probably ties into how nostalgia is used in modern media as a crutch vs as inspiration, which is something equally deep as the intersection between art and selling toys. Idk, I'm no sociologist. Seriously though they had the Akibarangers on screen in 2021 for their 10th birthday and everything I am not immune to nostalgia
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In addition, I note that in this film, Saber becomes the most important hero in the franchise, because it is he who inspires Shotaro to return to creativity, which means that without his intervention there would be no riders, no sentai, not even Zubat. Amazing if you think about it!
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Also, I get what you're saying, about the final battle being a long string of catchphrases (said by some incrdibly bad sound-alikes, Jesus Toei, was your stock library being cleaned that day?) being Toei boasting about how Kamen Sentai is the best thing ever, but I've been thinking about it - Sure, Rider/Sentai might from one angle be a tool to sell impressionable kids some merch, but also, merchandising franchises come and go. These characters, and indeed those catchphrases, wouldn't mean anything to anyone if the writers and characters and stories were just a vessel to sell toys in the minds of everyone. That probably ties into how nostalgia is used in modern media as a crutch vs as inspiration, which is something equally deep as the intersection between art and selling toys. Idk, I'm no sociologist.
And, yeah, people have been using the power of major companies to stealthily finance personal visions for about as long as patronage has existed, so there's no denying that any (or all) of these tokusatsu shows have high-minded morals and deeply-felt ideologies that are being transmitted alongside a demonstration of the new Q2 toy line. It's a hard thing to explain, where it starts to tip into feeling like I'm being asked to support a company more than a story, but: the end of that statement, I guess. I love Kamen Rider stories, and I appreciate the franchise, but I don't love Toei or Bandai. There's a transitive property-style thing that it feels like the movie might accidentally wander into during some of the stirring defenses of a pair of world-class tokusatsu franchises, and it makes me a little less excited.
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03-05-2023, 12:56 PM | #974 |
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Where it starts to lose me is when it sort of just devolves into KAMEN RIDER IS GREAT AND WILL ALWAYS BE GREAT celebratory stuff. It’s these grandiose speeches about the beauty and invulnerability of Kamen Rider, coupled with an Everyone Fights At The Quarry battle scene, and all I can think is that I’m not surprised Toei feels strongly about the strength of a 50-year toy-selling juggernaut. Like, the story indulges in its superiority so uncritically all of a sudden that I feel like I’m supporting commerce more than I’m supporting art, so I can’t help but check out a little at the climax. Quote:
Hard to go wrong when we get our first official Touma/Aruto team-up, right? The inclusion of the last few Riders made this movie feel like a bit of a make-up gift for the COVID-era restrictions, and then a little extra consideration for fans by tossing in the Den-O cast, as well. (I don’t really know the Sentai actors, but hopefully fans of that franchise enjoyed seeing them.) The minor appearances of so many different types of characters, as they’re being wedged into classic fables, helps sell the ending’s point that there’s enough uniqueness to each season’s cast and world to dodge charges that the Kamen Rider and Sentai franchises might derivatively regurgitate the same heroic morals every year. All of these goofs are so bizarre and memorable that they’ll naturally warp any boilerplate story concept into new and interesting shapes. Aruto’s going to take a story in a different direction than Touma, even if the destination is the same.
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And the overall point about how we need to see our humanity in heroes in order to be more heroic ourselves, I like that a lot. Square-jawed heroes that exist above us can’t really teach us anything important; flawed heroes who battle against their own failings to become better than they started, though, that’s always going to be a compelling story. The power of the Kamen Rider franchise isn’t in its heroes’ power, or their costumes. It’s in how nobility can be found in even the darkest of places, and that we all have the ability to be a better version of ourselves. This is a movie that argues against avoiding conflict, because only through overcoming conflict do we improve as people. Perseverance through adversity leading to a better world for everyone, which is a pretty apropos sentiment for a franchise that’s been around since 1971.
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03-05-2023, 04:33 PM | #975 |
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Well, it's a bigger Kamen Rider anniversary (50 vs 45), so it's more reasonable to have Saber take the lead. There've been a few of the old Taisen movies that felt more Sentai-focused (the Fourze one!!!), so it's not like this is an all the time thing. I'm sure we'll have a Sentai/Rider movie for Sentai's 50th that'll probably be less Rider-focused.
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03-05-2023, 05:58 PM | #976 |
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Worth noting that later that year, one of Zenkaiger’s 4 G-Rosso stage shows was a celebration of 50 years of Toei Tokusatsu, which was mostly focused on Sentai (the representation for other series amounted to Kamen Rider and Metal Heroes getting three of their Legends (Ichigou, V3 and Black for the former, Gavan, Fire and Blue Beet for the latter) showing up for the final battle.
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03-06-2023, 12:30 AM | #977 |
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TTFC DIRECT THEATER: KAMEN RIDER SABER ACT 2 - “SAVE EVERYONE, SABER & BLADES!”
Cute! Fun! That’s… basically it? I don’t even remember what I wrote about the last one of these, and it’s too late at night for me to investigate. (AEW Revolution was a very long PPV.) Arisa is a fun addition to the formula, but we’re still in a very stunt-heavy Kamen Rider Saber stage-show-by-any-other-name, so the story is simple, if still charming in its simplicity. There’s really nothing here other than the lightness of the material, which – in all honesty – totally a highlight. The threat is goofy, the victory is assured, and the effort involved is minimal. It’s 15 minutes of thrills, the end. I liked it, though, for what it was. Nothing that made me work too hard to dig out subtext, ‘cause there really isn’t any. Saber and Blades save the girl, and Blades has to fend off a new admirer. Good enough for a late night Saber escapade! — ON THE BUBBLE “...okay, there we were, frozen in little bubbles, while an ant monster threatened our lives.” “Uh huh.” “But then a superhero named Kamen Rider Blades showed up to save us!” “Uh huh.” “But he didn’t.” “Uh huh.” “But then Kamen Rider Saber showed up to save us!” “Uh huh.” “Except he had to fight Blades to save some lady who’d been turned into an ant monster.” “Uh huh.” “But then he beat Blades, saved the lady, and freed all of us from our bubble prisons!” “...So what you’re telling me is that you STILL didn’t order the pizza.”
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03-06-2023, 12:36 AM | #978 |
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I legitimately have nothing on these other than what my theory was last time. So like...
That story! Very simplistic and i honestly don't blame you for basically doing I'm assuming a play by play of what happened via one of the audience members. What got me at the end was the punchline purely because I seem to recall mention of a dude not ordering the pizza from way back when. Now that's what I like to call a callback. |
03-06-2023, 12:40 AM | #979 |
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I legitimately have nothing on these other than what my theory was last time. So like...
That story! Very simplistic and i honestly don't blame you for basically doing I'm assuming a play by play of what happened via one of the audience members. What got me at the end was the punchline purely because I seem to recall mention of a dude not ordering the pizza from way back when. Now that's what I like to call a callback.
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