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11-19-2019, 11:40 AM | #441 |
天心の英雄たち
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I like the SHF Ranger molds, to me they look more like the Sentai show since they're not overly muscled.
I bought the Legacy figures just to have a Ranger team, but they're so muscled it really doesn't look like the show. ....plus Boi,... didn't have breasts in Zyuranger. hahaha. But I could put together a MMPR Legacy team for a fraction of what it would cost to put together the SHF Sentai team. |
11-20-2019, 02:54 PM | #442 |
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Why wouldn't Hasbro just do it without Bandai? |
11-21-2019, 10:17 AM | #443 |
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Prior to 2019, Bandai America could make Sentai toys under the Power Rangers moniker, however they likely had to be of only suits featured in the show or comics. To do otherwise could have jeopardized Saban's marketing of the show and cause charges faced in a legal gray area. 2019 and onward, could Bandai America release Super Sentai figures not adapted to Power Rangers? Possibly, but again that faces legal gray areas, opening the door to a lawsuit from Hasbro for diminishing a brand before they had the chance to adapt it. Naturally they could not release it under the Power Rangers moniker, only Bandai Japan imports have the right to do so, and BlueFin takes care of that. Returning back to Hasbro, they could release Sentai toys under the Power Rangers name if they choose to, depending on the situation. Even though Hasbro owns the rights to the Power Rangers brand, Toei is the ultimate owner that license out Sentai to Hasbro for adaptation, and has final say on most things. Hasbro would have to get permission from Toei and BOJ to make toys based on Sentai that have yet to be adapted. The most likely scenario is getting Fiveman lightning figures under the Power Rangers Supersonic name, and maybe some of the other suits featured in Super Megaforce, that would be included as a part of that season. Suits from Battle Fever J, Denziman, and Sun Vulcan might require Disney's approval, but Hasbro has a good working relationship with them so it might be possible. But it all comes down to how Toei, BOJ, Hasbro, and Disney are willing to work together to bring us the best outcome of Super Sentai/Power Rangers toys |
11-21-2019, 01:33 PM | #444 |
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Bandai owns the toy license for Super Sentai, and everything associated with Super Sentai (including the Power Rangers brand name), pretty much everywhere else in the world. Legally, Bandai, and only Bandai, can sell Super Sentai and Power Rangers toys in the territories not covered by Hasbro. Hasbro can't sell Super Sentai versions of the Lightning Collection figures in Japan because BOJ owns the license for everything Super Sentai (including Power Rangers) in that territory. Doing so would be illegal. Theoretically, BOJ could sell Super Sentai versions of the Lightning Collection in Japan, but only if Hasbro -- the company that owns the Lightning Collection's sculpts/molds, completely independent of the toy license -- decided to license the sculpts/molds to Bandai. Hasbro won't do that -- and Bandai won't ask -- because the two companies are extremely fierce competitors. Neither company has an incentive to help a major rival make money. Now, BoJ could make new sculpts and molds that are similar -- but not identical -- to the Lightning Collection's. However, when BoJ released a similar line years ago (i.e. SH Figuarts' Super Sentai figures), they discovered that there wasn't enough of a market for these kinds of Super Sentai figures in Japan. They won't endure the costs of developing an entirely new, Lightning Collection-esque line of action figures when a similar (arguably better) line didn't earn enough money to continue the releases. Make sense? Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 11-21-2019 at 02:00 PM.. |
11-22-2019, 04:25 AM | #445 |
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Honestly...I think the only reason why the Sentai Figuarts line failed was because it was hard to get for us westerners.
Also, the Super Sentai series is seen as being for kids and the nostalgia for it doesn't seem to be as strong as in the US for Power Rangers. Toei needs to market Super Sentai for a broader audience and not just for kids, or it won't work. You'll never see BoJ reattempt to release figuarts figures of the Sentai Series. I don't understand why Toei doesn't try to do something akin to Kamen Rider Amazonz to try to get back the older audience... I think that would rejuvenate the brand. I'm collecting the Power Rangers Lightning Collection purely by nostalgia, but I have a feeling that Hasbro is trying to appeal to "everyone" with Beast Morphers. Or...I just like kiddy shows... All in all, I'm getting the Beast Morphers. ( I would like to get the Black Dino Thunder and Red Zero Ranger also...) |
11-22-2019, 09:41 AM | #446 |
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Honestly...I think the only reason why the Sentai Figuarts line failed was because it was hard to get for us westerners.
Also, the Super Sentai series is seen as being for kids and the nostalgia for it doesn't seem to be as strong as in the US for Power Rangers. Toei needs to market Super Sentai for a broader audience and not just for kids, or it won't work. You'll never see BoJ reattempt to release figuarts figures of the Sentai Series. I don't understand why Toei doesn't try to do something akin to Kamen Rider Amazonz to try to get back the older audience... I think that would rejuvenate the brand. I'm collecting the Power Rangers Lightning Collection purely by nostalgia, but I have a feeling that Hasbro is trying to appeal to "everyone" with Beast Morphers. Or...I just like kiddy shows... All in all, I'm getting the Beast Morphers. ( I would like to get the Black Dino Thunder and Red Zero Ranger also...) As for Figuarts themselves, it comes down to how the two series are different. Kamen Rider is for the most part a lone ranger archetype. He might have a buddy here and there, and the later seasons have featured some Sentai-like teams and cross overs, but for the most part the title hero is the focal point. People can drop $60 for a Kamen Rider figure they really like and be done with it. And everyone has a different favorite and a large enough fan base to justify making more. Sentai Figuarts on the other hand, there are a lot more rangers than riders. Even if you have a favorite ranger, you can't just get him or her. You have to get the whole team. That's $60 per figure for an average of 5 to 6 member team that spans over 40 seasons. And once you have a full team then you'll most likely want the mecha to go with it. Sentai does have a large fan base, especially when Power Rangers is included, but $60 a figure is not practical for a series about a squadron of heroes. |
11-24-2019, 06:34 AM | #447 |
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I really want him to come with the Tonfas... |
11-24-2019, 09:49 AM | #448 |
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11-24-2019, 10:20 AM | #449 |
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They're not in the most recent image though, which is worrying.
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11-24-2019, 04:49 PM | #450 |
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Given how the new image lacks color info for the head but adds in the logo and text. It's again possible that the person who put the image together just screwed up and deleted items they weren't supposed to.
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