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05-15-2020, 12:41 PM | #171 |
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As others have pointed out, this episode is an important turning point for Takumi and features his iconic line about protecting dreams. He's scared of hurting people and has no self-confidence. But this responsibility of Faiz gives him purpose and the means to help people. It's exactly the boost he needed and that's why he's starting to take it more seriously. It's selfish, which is just like Takumi, but it's not wrong. A superhero deserves to feel some pride.
More than that, I think it shows a real bravery for Takumi. He doesn't feel this connection to dreams that anyone else in the story does, but he's going to trust that they're being honest with him, and fight to give them a chance at seeing their dream through. Like, I think it's more heroic to have Takumi fighting for something he doesn't understand, than something he feels deeply. Quote:
The guitar is symbolic of Kaido's "curse", the burden he carried from the dream he's unable to fulfill on his own. Having passed the curse on to his protege, he has created a legacy that will ensure his dream will become reality in the future and thus ending the curse for good. That doesn't mean he's going to embrace being a monster.
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05-15-2020, 02:54 PM | #172 |
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I also like how it's making Takumi okay with not having all the answers, with allowing him to be uncertain. It's something I really liked from Ryuki, the way the show seemed to value asking questions, and it's cool to see a version of it here.
More than that, I think it shows a real bravery for Takumi. He doesn't feel this connection to dreams that anyone else in the story does, but he's going to trust that they're being honest with him, and fight to give them a chance at seeing their dream through. Like, I think it's more heroic to have Takumi fighting for something he doesn't understand, than something he feels deeply. I just feel like there's a read where he's, like, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. (Not out a window, but figuratively.) The freedom of no longer having a dream is... maybe not a great thing? The show makes a great case for Kaido being smothered by his old dream, but I'm not sure it's super healthy to deny yourself an outlet that you feel like you aren't great at anymore. That feels more like a surrender than personal growth. I kind of understand your perspective, it looks like he's given up. Consider the context though. I think Kaido was content for someone else to take over his dream, since he can't pursue it anymore, at least not to his former potential. He unlocked that potential in another. Having a dream is good but it was holding him back from putting the past behind him the way Kiba had. Now he can use that freedom to find something else to strive for, something he can actually give his all. He's pretty much in a similar position to how Takumi was at the start. And as an Orphenoch, he has a new range of skills that he can use however he sees fit.
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05-15-2020, 03:21 PM | #173 |
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Die covered a point I would have made already in how the nature of who Takumi is saying those lines to matters. What I'd also like to call attention to is how precise Faiz's dialogue often is. The actual part where he details why dreams matter, he feels the need to qualify it with the "or so I've been told" at the end. He takes those extra words just to distance himself from what he's saying. It's defensive, and that's, again, classic Takkun. Even in the scene that forms his central motivation, he's still holding back on admitting how strongly he feels things. He never says a word about caring, just that he's going to do this. It's really not a typical big hero speech, and that's exactly why it's so memorable and closely associated with the show.
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So here now Takumi softens up. Takumi is the one to go to Mari, to show it. Even if Mari blames Takumi for her failings. And I didn't expect Mari to fail that hard at first, I thought she must've had some information or a little experience of it before actually performing there. And the one that gets Takumi to understand other people's dream was watching Mari did better and get some approval right?
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The main thrust of what Mari’s speech is trying to do is be the counterpoint to Kaido’s take on dreams. For Mari, for Team Faiz, dreams are what motivates us to be better people, what gives our lives meaning. There's struggle, but without that struggle we'd be less as people. For Kaido and Team Orphnoch, dreams are what haunt us, and other humans exist to keep our dreams just out of our reach. The struggle only has value if you can reach your goal, and falling short is a fate worse than death. Collectively, it’s a nice take on how having a goal can provide shape and purpose to life, but being too caught up on achieving a goal can lead to sadness and ruin.
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Both Takumi and Kaido are frustrated by being on the outside and looking in. They see people pursuing dreams, and they hate it. Takumi because he doesn’t understand it, and Kaido because he misses it. But even if they can’t enact their own dreams, maybe they can work to help others achieve their dreams. Takumi doesn’t viscerally understand Mari’s connection to her dream, but he wants to give her the safety to pursue it. Kaido can’t ever play the way he used to, but the first-year can, and maybe with Kaido’s guidance some small part of his dream can live on.
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Thematically, this was a super-stuffed episode. Dreams, mentors, it was a lot to unpack. (I didn’t even touch on how weird it was to have the FaizCyKill show up during Faiz’s fight with Bee-Plot and immediately get into a fight with Faiz. They have a real bitter rivalry going on!) I think there was maybe one too many speeches about dreams, but nothing in it was aggravating. It’s trying to do a lot, and the visible effort of trying to say Big Things sort-of worked against it here. The more laid-back Faiz is about telling its story, the more I dig it. This one felt like they were trying a little too hard.
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05-15-2020, 06:48 PM | #175 |
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So here now Takumi softens up. Takumi is the one to go to Mari, to show it. Even if Mari blames Takumi for her failings. And I didn't expect Mari to fail that hard at first, I thought she must've had some information or a little experience of it before actually performing there. And the one that gets Takumi to understand other people's dream was watching Mari did better and get some approval right?
To her not doing well at her tryout, she describes this salon as a dream job, meaning it's probably one of the most acclaimed salons in the biggest city in the country. A place like that is tough to get a job at, and it seems like the stress of her tryout might've made Mari a little more sloppy than she'd normally be. She's probably more than good enough to get a job as a beautician, but she's going to have to try harder for the job she wants. It wouldn't be a dream if it were easy! I think what does it for Takumi (beyond every other minute of the past two episodes building to it) is seeing not the approval, but how happy trying and succeeding made Mari. Her ability to channel difficulty into a positive outcome was what I think he responded to, not anything else. Quote:
I think it's two things. First, I think she's trying to be a good friend to Kaido, take an interest in what's been troubling him. Yuuji probably would've gone with, but he was still on bedrest. Second, Yuka's supposed to be sticking to Kaido to make sure he doesn't kill a whole bunch of people, and he figures it out early enough that she doesn't need to hide from him. She's like a chaperone for Kaido in this episode.
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05-15-2020, 10:17 PM | #176 |
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KAMEN RIDER 555 EPISODE 09
--1-- It's not that this wasn't a thematically-rich episode (there's a nice runner about supporting your friends by giving them independence, and the reality that large corporations generally don't have your best interests at heart), but this was an absolute corker of a plot-driven episode. Nearly every scene was either new information or Team Orphnoch running into Team Faiz. It's a big episode! --2-- Although, I guess Team Orphnoch is Team Faiz now?! That was a hell of a final reveal, that Kaido is The Next Faiz. (Thank goodness I've been keeping my eyes open as instructed!) It's a solid story up to then, but that cliffhanger! Goddamn! I really appreciate that the next story they decide to tell with Takumi after his But Why Heroism two-parter, the very next story is What If Someone Took The Belt Back. Super smart. He'd just accepted that he should be Faiz, and now he's free and clear to give up the burden. Except, maybe it's not that much of a burden to Takumi? There's a quick scene with Mari and Takumi, after they give the belt back to Smart Brain, where Mari asks how Takumi feels about it. Takumi smiles and says he feels relieved. I wouldn't believe him anyway, but the fact that he smiles when he says it is just about the biggest red flag this show could go with. He's only happy when he's mad, so the fact that he smiles means he's very unhappy. The last three Riders were very much Suffering For Our Sins types of Riders, and they each had stories about how deep and painful it is to fight as a Kamen Rider. I kind-of like the idea that Takumi feels a sense of fulfillment, of purpose as a Rider, and now that's being taken away from him. Worse, he might have to fight to get it back, which, visibly expressing a desire is maybe his kryptonite. While every other Rider has to accept a terrible burden, Takumi might want to be a Kamen Rider. It's something someone else can do, and he has to grapple with wanting it to be him instead. I really do love that, and it's typical of the way this show inverts Kamen Rider tropes for entertaining effect. --3-- Like the way this show has the Orphnochs donating money to the disadvantaged/terrible (Yuuji! I will never get tired of Yuuji telling Takumi to be a better man!), doing each other's laundry to show they belong, and being a goddamn Kamen Rider. It's all hero stuff, top to bottom, and that's so consistently great to me. I love how much this show is making Team Orphnoch have a nobility to them. As I sort-of suspected, Kaido's putting away of his old dream by theatrically obliterating the totem of it was... maybe something that's having a negative effect on him. He pushes away Yuuji and Yuka, and they react to it differently. Yuuji mostly just sees through Kaido's outburst and storm-off, and assumes he'll be back. Yuka's response is interesting, because it's all about her core trauma. Yuka's so used to being blamed for everything, that she assumes that anyone's unhappiness is a) her fault, and b) her responsibility to fix. She makes sandwiches to cheer up Kaido, she badgers him for more information when he runs off, she frets about not doing enough. Yuuji's content to give a friend space, while Yuka clings to scraps of affection as though they'll be ripped out of her hands at any moment. It's a really interesting dynamic that group has. --4-- Yuuji didn't get a ton to do in this episode, besides (naturally) staking a claim for Team Orphnoch to be the defenders of humanity. It's nice to have that scene, of Yuuji calmly and happily telling his friends that he thinks they should save lives, while the next scene is Mari telling Takumi he's a champion of justice and Takumi's just Ugh Why Would You Say That. It is delightful. You've got the monster group fighting for humanity, and you've got the Rider group giving away their Driver and quitting when the going gets tough on a neighborhood watch. (Takumi loves quitting! It's maybe his only dream!) Kaido showing up at the end as The Next Faiz, teaming up (effectively!) with the FaizCyKill to save Team Faiz from an Orphnoch... it's like my heart grew two sizes. It's great on so many levels. There's the visceral reveal level, where I zero percent was expecting Kaido to be given the belt by Smart Brain. There's the character level, where it's totally in keeping with Kaido's need for a new dream for him to take up the mantle of Faiz. There's the deeper character level of what exactly Kaido's getting out of this, why he'd fight to save people, why this dream. And there's the plot level, where I can't wait to find out how all of this gets untangled. If it ever does! Which I'm not really against! This show is killing it with its choices! --5-- Just, it's really buckling down and nailing its storytelling for me. The humor's been great, the melodrama has been proportional, the characters are all so multi-faceted, and now the overall plot machinations are really popping for me. I think Murakami is a fun villain (although, this show, probably "villain”) that's not really done enough for me to get a grip on his character, but definitely has me curious. Like, this episode was great at getting me real, real invested in Smart Brain, Mari's missing adopted dad (because her birth parents died in a fire at Ore Journal, I guess, since she was rescued and brought down their back stairwell), and how those plots will alter things for Team Orphnoch and Team Faiz. Great episode!
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05-16-2020, 06:50 AM | #177 |
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In my opinio, this is one of the show’s best cards: the idea that the Rider’s identity is not set by the first guy to appear in the titles. I’m slightly disappointed there aren’t many other shows that do it. (Though in one of the shows that DID do it, they released an album for all the users of one Rider gear)
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05-16-2020, 01:31 PM | #178 |
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In my opinio, this is one of the show’s best cards: the idea that the Rider’s identity is not set by the first guy to appear in the titles. I’m slightly disappointed there aren’t many other shows that do it. (Though in one of the shows that DID do it, they released an album for all the users of one Rider gear)
That said, I really like the stories where the burden evolves beyond No One Else Can Do This But Me and starts to require a kind of continuous recommitment, where someone else could do it but the lead character chooses to do it. I came in through Ex-Aid, so I don't really have a problem with someone proving why they should be allowed to be a Kamen Rider over someone else. I like when stories have a deeper way of making a case for their hero than He Called Dibs, you know?
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05-16-2020, 04:29 PM | #179 |
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I really appreciate that the next story they decide to tell with Takumi after his But Why Heroism two-parter, the very next story is What If Someone Took The Belt Back. Super smart. He’d just accepted that he should be Faiz, and now he’s free and clear to give up the burden.
Except, maybe it’s not that much of a burden to Takumi? There’s a quick scene with Mari and Takumi, after they give the belt back to Smart Brain, where Mari asks how Takumi feels about it. Takumi smiles and says he feels relieved. I wouldn’t believe him anyway, but the fact that he smiles when he says it is just about the biggest red flag this show could go with. He’s only happy when he’s mad, so the fact that he smiles means he’s very unhappy. The last three Riders were very much Suffering For Our Sins types of Riders, and they each had stories about how deep and painful it is to fight as a Kamen Rider. I kind-of like the idea that Takumi feels a sense of fulfillment, of purpose as a Rider, and now that’s being taken away from him. Worse, he might have to fight to get it back, which, visibly expressing a desire is maybe his kryptonite. While every other Rider has to accept a terrible burden, Takumi might want to be a Kamen Rider. It’s something someone else can do, and he has to grapple with wanting it to be him instead. I really do love that, and it’s typical of the way this show inverts Kamen Rider tropes for entertaining effect. Quote:
Like the way this show has the Orphnochs donating money to the disadvantaged/terrible (Yuuji! I will never get tired of Yuuji telling Takumi to be a better man!), doing each other’s laundry to show they belong, and being a goddamn Kamen Rider. It’s all hero stuff, top to bottom, and that’s so consistently great to me. I love how much this show is making Team Orphnoch have a nobility to them.
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Yuuji didn’t get a ton to do in this episode, besides (naturally) staking a claim for Team Orphnoch to be the defenders of humanity. It’s nice to have that scene, of Yuuji calmly and happily telling his friends that he thinks they should save lives, while the next scene is Mari telling Takumi he’s a champion of justice and Takumi’s just Ugh Why Would You Say That. It is delightful. You’ve got the monster group fighting for humanity, and you’ve got the Rider group giving away their Driver and quitting when the going gets tough on a neighborhood watch. (Takumi loves quitting! It’s maybe his only dream!)
Kaido showing up at the end as The Next Faiz, teaming up (effectively!) with the FaizCyKill to save Team Faiz from an Orphnoch… it’s like my heart grew two sizes. It’s great on so many levels. There’s the visceral reveal level, where I zero percent was expecting Kaido to be given the belt by Smart Brain. There’s the character level, where it’s totally in keeping with Kaido’s need for a new dream for him to take up the mantle of Faiz. There’s the deeper character level of what exactly Kaido’s getting out of this, why he’d fight to save people, why this dream. And there’s the plot level, where I can’t wait to find out how all of this gets untangled. If it ever does! Which I’m not really against! This show is killing it with its choices! It's clear now in this episode... Yuji (possibly Yuka too) wants to protect humans with their power and doesn't want to be used by Smart Brain. And the president, Kyoji Murakami, is the real villain Orphnoch to fight. Quote:
Just, it’s really buckling down and nailing its storytelling for me. The humor’s been great, the melodrama has been proportional, the characters are all so multi-faceted, and now the overall plot machinations are really popping for me. I think Murakami is a fun villain (although, this show, probably “villain”) that’s not really done enough for me to get a grip on his character, but definitely has me curious. Like, this episode was great at getting me real, real invested in Smart Brain, Mari’s missing adopted dad (because her birth parents died in a fire at Ore Journal, I guess, since she was rescued and brought down their back stairwell), and how those plots will alter things for Team Orphnoch and Team Faiz. Great episode!
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Lol yeah, even with many ways of comparing Team Orphnoch & Faiz.... I've been bringing up this multiple times but, Kaido is Takumi. Both of them are appalled by the ally of justice concept their team pushes out to them, and... yeah Kaido becomes Faiz! I think Faiz' perks is about how the belt continually changes its wielder, apart from good monsters.
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