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07-17-2020, 09:00 PM | #111 |
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Takanori Tsujimoto's direction in this one majorly impressed me. There's an almost endless list of individual things to point to, but overall, I think there was a constant sense of the camera getting real up close and personal with everything that made the episode feel crazy dynamic, on top of using some time-tested tricks like the "stuff shaking in a room" reaction shot to a monster falling over. (I'd really love to see a compilation of every time that's happened in the New Generation shows, by the way.) The episode also pulls that same kind of neat exaggerated perspective with the Z Lance Arrow at the end that was used in Taiga with the Tri Blade. I don't remember if that was only a Tsujimoto thing, but I did look up enough to know that was definitely in his episodes of that show. Cool to see it back!
As for the story this time, it's a lot of fun, but I have to wonder how well it would play to someone who hasn't seen Orb. I mean, they were hinting at Hebikura's shadier side from the premiere, so as usual, the plot makes sense completely on its own, but I get the feeling it'll be on an entirely different wavelength than the obviously intended "oh s***, Juggler's back!" reaction fans are going to be having.
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07-17-2020, 09:12 PM | #112 |
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Oh shit, Juggler's back!
God, this entire episode was just intense and popping every which way. It was cool to see Peguila in action and getting to do stuff (aka not getting jobbed by Ribut immediately to show him off). And it was just a genuinely intense fight and probably our best showing of Sevenger thus far with the little robot giving it everything he's got. The aerial battle was also really cool from a camera and shot perspective, and I had to admit I was a bit surprised by the fact that we killed Peguila so early in. But then well, Juggler be Juggler and damn what a nostalgic but new feeling transformation they gave him that took cues from his one from the Orb Movie. Which makes me excited to see Riku's transformation next week! Because man, what better way to debut Geed's new form than to bring back the enemy of Geed's Movie. |
07-17-2020, 09:25 PM | #113 |
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Loved the latest episode.
The use of all the little details, like the snowplow, the bikes, and especially the car flipping shot, were all some great highlights. This entire episode felt really cinematic in a way. Like it was an older kaiju film. The fights felt intense, and I actually really like how the new weapon works. The fact the robots were mostly used in the fights and used really creatively too was a nice twist to keep things fresh. I know nothing about Juggler but man he seems really interesting here. I wonder why he's here again? The final shot of him just looking to the camera really interests me, and wonder if he's aware of something. Just all around a great episode (and I need to work on my wording of critiques ands stuff)
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07-18-2020, 02:10 AM | #114 |
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A small part of me worries that having Hebikura here be the first one to use a monster fusion in the show, with a dark palette swap of the Riser no less, will take away from when our show's actual villain does it for the first time. It is still really cool to see though.
The whole episode had so much fun just showing off, didn't it!? I particularly love that extended shot that was from the inside of a fake car, with junk flying everywhere and even reflecting in the rearview mirror! On the opposite side of effects that still made me happy is the little cardboard vehicle in the opening few seconds of the episode, trucking along in the snow. That looked like something out of a puppet show but it was very cute... |
07-18-2020, 04:42 AM | #115 |
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Man, this episode was good. So much stuff happened but it didn't feel rushed at all. This show is just really fun to watch.
Juggler stealing Gai's transformation sequence is the most Juggler thing imaginable. I wonder how him being around is going to affect the show. What's he going to do? Will Geed recognise him next week? |
07-18-2020, 06:22 AM | #116 |
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Oh my god this episode. So good.
First, let's get the action out of the way. Holy cannoli! So many amazing camera angles, miniature work and effects! This is Ultraman at its absolute best, amazing work! The plot served the story well, we get a classic "monster appears do to mankind's fault", with the added set piece of an ancient weapon left by another Ultraman. That I like for two reasons: First, of course, the classic Godzilla-trope, second: The weapon not just being summoned because we "unlocked it", but it also ties into lore of Ultraman visiting Earth through different periods, in some cases even settling / being born here (Victory). The weapon is really neat by the way, I like it! Not too gimmicky but obviously toy-like, still cool though. Then, the plot - first of all I really enjoyed the dynamic between Haruki and Yoko. Haruki obviously admires her and wants to be a professional like her, which enables him to grow beyond his limits. The limit being - only relying on the Ultra Z Riser. I really liked how Juggler snatched it away early on, which not only explains how he gets one but also forces Haruki to take action himself. Lastly, Juggler. Man we simply don’t deserve this guy. It's so good to have him back. He was one of my favorite things about Orb, he was fantastic in the Geed movie, and now he’s a permanent part of Z as well! And it's so great to have his human persona integrated into the core cast, he's not just a mysterious dude who comes and goes, he's their captain! I really wonder how he came to be in that position. But next week - oh lord, Geed is back. I mean, we knew about this, but... Z is awesome; we get Juggler, and now Geed? This show is spoiling is so hard and I love it. PS. I was noticing how the co-existing between humans and monsters pretty much flew out of the window this season but – "professional monster exterminators"? Damn Haruki, Daichi is going to have a word with you someday! Quote:
I mean, they were hinting at Hebikura's shadier side from the premiere, so as usual, the plot makes sense completely on its own, but I get the feeling it'll be on an entirely different wavelength than the obviously intended "oh s***, Juggler's back!" reaction fans are going to be having.
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07-18-2020, 06:33 AM | #117 |
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As for the story this time, it's a lot of fun, but I have to wonder how well it would play to someone who hasn't seen Orb. I mean, they were hinting at Hebikura's shadier side from the premiere, so as usual, the plot makes sense completely on its own, but I get the feeling it'll be on an entirely different wavelength than the obviously intended "oh s***, Juggler's back!" reaction fans are going to be having.
The problem is, we then spend half the episode on a character I feel like I'm supposed to recognise? And it makes me feel like I can't understand the plot without having seen, like, three other seasons. It's the same with the other villain - he pulls out a monster medal, and I feel like I'm just supposed to understand what it is, despite the fact I've never seen it before! And it's not as if they explain what Mr Juggler is, he's just kinda there and I'm supposed to lose my mind. (you know, despite the fact the only speculation I've seen on this board is 'The Chief is Juggler'). If he was a new alien, it would almost make more sense, because then I'd be speculating who he is, rather than thinking I'm already supposed to know? If that makes sense?
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07-18-2020, 06:37 AM | #118 |
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As someone who has no idea what a Juggler is, I have no idea what is going on here. Like, the rest of the plot is great! It's well-filmed, it's dramatic, and the character stuff if pretty good. Not sure why they even built Windom since it's jobbing hard every episode, but hey, he's cool.
As for Juggler, I think your feelings might have to do with all the reactions around going 'oh my gosh, its juggler!!!'. Looking at the show in a vacuum, you're meant to be intrigued and surprised by the fact that our captain is some kind of alien and also wants to cause trouble for Z and Haruki. There's plenty of answers to be had about him in the rest of the show that won't require knowledge of previous lore, I'm confident. Last edited by FreshToku; 07-18-2020 at 06:40 AM.. |
07-18-2020, 07:30 AM | #119 |
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As for Juggler, I think your feelings might have to do with all the reactions around going 'oh my gosh, its juggler!!!'. Looking at the show in a vacuum, you're meant to be intrigued and surprised by the fact that our captain is some kind of alien and also wants to cause trouble for Z and Haruki. There's plenty of answers to be had about him in the rest of the show that won't require knowledge of previous lore, I'm confident.
And, tbf, that's one of the big stumbling blocks against getting into it. From the constant use of past Ultras as collectibles, to Zero and Geed making cameos which I'm probably supposed to recognise, everything being a new expression of something old, I just feel like I'm watching something but not understanding anything. Don't get me wrong, this is me getting hung up on something minor, but the minor things add up and make me feel like I can't watch Ultraman without starting at the beginning or I won't properly *get* it. Idk, I don't really have a point.
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07-18-2020, 11:49 AM | #120 |
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I wonder if Gai will come back just to see his old "friend"
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