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06-26-2020, 02:26 PM | #31 |
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Speaking of Sevenger, something else I really loved about the premiere I didn't really touch on that much was seeing Haruki and Z get to do some bro-bonding fighting alongside each other. That little synchronized punch grabbed my attention right from the trailers for the show. Something Mebius made a huge point of, that I always loved, was the idea that Ultramen and whatever Science Patrol equivalent of the month fight as equals, and this was a very direct version of that, right down to the hilarious moment where Haruki observes that Z's batteries are running dry too, which might even surpass the photo booth gag from Orb when it comes to cheeky ways to explain the concept of Color Timers to new viewers.
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06-26-2020, 02:32 PM | #32 |
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Speaking of Sevenger, something else I really loved about the premiere I didn't really touch on that much was seeing Haruki and Z get to do some bro-bonding fighting alongside each other. That little synchronized punch grabbed my attention right from the trailers for the show. Something Mebius made a huge point of, that I always loved, was the idea that Ultramen and whatever Science Patrol equivalent of the month fight as equals, and this was a very direct version of that, right down to the hilarious moment where Haruki observes that Z's batteries are running dry too, which might even surpass the photo booth gag from Orb when it comes to cheeky ways to explain the concept of Color Timers to new viewers.
And... okay, sure, Z is absolutely 100% stronger than Sevenger, but the way it's framed genuinely has you thinking this goofy little robot is capable of not just support but winning the day! He feels less like a failure and more like an actual team member, and I love love love that. Hell, even though he died; he died from the same thing that killed Z! It's like... I dunno, this is just great. It's a great little touch. Talking of tropes getting turned on their head in that scene, I really like that there's no fighting or ~misunderstanding~ between Haruki and Z -- Z clearly acts like an inexperienced hero trying his best out there and knowing that he has to protect these people even if he knows nothing about them; and Haruki literally says "he's obviously the good guy". It's... it was just really nice, y'know? And because I can't stop talking? LOVE how much is conveyed about Z's character through body language alone in that scene. I said 'inexperienced hero', and sure Zero literally said that in the scene directly before; but this made me really really believe it. He acted like an amateur whose heart was in the right place and it really endeared me to him!
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06-26-2020, 03:00 PM | #33 |
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06-26-2020, 03:11 PM | #34 |
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X is on my list! My plan is to watch the Zero movies, then everything Ginga onwards
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06-26-2020, 03:26 PM | #35 |
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06-26-2020, 07:28 PM | #36 |
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I really liked that too!! Usually when there's this sort of set-up, the humans' countermeasure is very quickly wrecked and treated as an afterthought for the real magical hero of the series to stand up and show his power.
And... okay, sure, Z is absolutely 100% stronger than Sevenger, but the way it's framed genuinely has you thinking this goofy little robot is capable of not just support but winning the day! He feels less like a failure and more like an actual team member, and I love love love that. Hell, even though he died; he died from the same thing that killed Z! It's like... I dunno, this is just great. It's a great little touch. Talking of tropes getting turned on their head in that scene, I really like that there's no fighting or ~misunderstanding~ between Haruki and Z -- Z clearly acts like an inexperienced hero trying his best out there and knowing that he has to protect these people even if he knows nothing about them; and Haruki literally says "he's obviously the good guy". It's... it was just really nice, y'know? And because I can't stop talking? LOVE how much is conveyed about Z's character through body language alone in that scene. I said 'inexperienced hero', and sure Zero literally said that in the scene directly before; but this made me really really believe it. He acted like an amateur whose heart was in the right place and it really endeared me to him!
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06-26-2020, 07:59 PM | #37 |
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Another brilliant episode of Sevenger feat. Some Other Guy.
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06-26-2020, 08:43 PM | #38 |
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Okay so this episode was pretty cool.
Hebikura continues to show more Juggler Vibes, and he clearly knows more than he let's on. Also this episode basically indirectly confirmed he has the Tiga, Dyna, Gaia Medals. Because when sparring his neat hair ends up unfurling and he gets a bang, the same bang we saw from last week from what little we saw of our mystery man. Neronga was also a nice choice, and an obvious one given its specialty to drain electricity as well as it's electrical based attacks. Will say though, I am loving Haruki and Zett's dynamic so far, it's honestly hilarious. But what I loved about it was the little callback to Ultraman 66. The line about "Until we try as hard as we can." reminded me so much about the line from the A Little Hero episode of 66, where Hayta tells Ide, "Ultraman will only help us when we're fighting as hard as we can." And I just loved that callback because it just fits so well when it comes to having defense teams and the like. |
06-26-2020, 08:49 PM | #39 |
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I joke about Sevenger stealing the show, but being completely serious, my favorite scene in the entire episode was by far Z's chat with Haruki. His inability to stick to one tone when speaking continues to be hilarious, to a level I'm not sure the subs are doing justice. Which isn't a knock against them, it's tricky stuff to translate, but... I don't know, imagine a fireman who occasionally speaks in the formal manner of a butler, yet is also just as liable to end a sentence with "brah". That's an exaggeration on my part, but I think it gives you a better idea of just how odd Z kind of is when he's talking. Sometimes the awkward switches even happen in the middle of a single sentence.
Putting aside the way he's saying it, the things he says in that scene are great either way. It's a lot more meta comedy, which is the kind of thing that often becomes self-indulgent and unfunny in large doses, but I found it continued to work very well, especially since the scene is taking time to further address standard toku tropes in a way you don't see too often. Even though there's not much an actual explanation, I was pleasantly surprised to see Z explicitly say Haruki only gets to transform after he's given it all just as himself first. It's one of those oft-unspoken rules of Ultraman, usually justified simply by an overall idea that Ultraman isn't meant to just be an omnipotent savior who solves everyone's problems for them, but to see Haruki actively try to give up on fighting a monster without Z's help, it was a nice way to drive that home a bit. It's a strange thing to see happen, and feels faintly wrong. It doesn't explore all these concepts in a particularly deep fashion , but it was still cool of the show specifically write in an instance of Haruki breaking the rules onscreen as part of establishing their importance. It's something I, and probably a lot of other viewers, like to ask questions about and poke fun at, so seeing the show get in on the joke, down to going "look, nobody can see Haruki's giant blue coin purse please stop worrying about it", it makes me feel... I don't know. "Heard" is too dramatic, but you can tell Kouta Fukihara was having loads of loving fun with all the little quirks of the franchise, and it's bittersweet that these episodes are so sharply written knowing he didn't get the chance to see the final product. Which is a heavier note than I expected to end this post on, but I guess my main point is just that I'm getting a ton of enjoyment out of the work he did. Z has been as fun as an Ultra show can be so far, and I'm eagerly awaiting the next episode.
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06-26-2020, 09:10 PM | #40 |
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If the captain ain't Juggler, the creative team's being one hell of a tease
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