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09-06-2020, 11:52 AM | #31 |
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anyone else think that because we have 3 riders and the them is books we might get a 3 musketeers book power up ? something like the trinity watch from zi-o ?
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09-06-2020, 12:24 PM | #32 |
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So, yeah... this happened.
I'm not 100% sure, I'd have to go back and check, but I may have mentioned my somewhat negative response to Kamen Rider Ghost on this board once. Possibly. I feel like it's the sort of thing I wouldn't have dwelled on, certainly not several years after the show ended. Regardless, I was not 1000% thrilled to have Ghost's writer back on board, but I wanted to go into the show with an open mind and no immediate prejudices. And then the first shot opens on a motherfucking clown with a turquoise wig and giant fake mustache. You're not working with me here, Saber. I'm not ragequitting the show after one episode. It's really early and it's not fair to judge anything too harshly yet. The first episode was badly rushed and the plot will likely calm down once we get most of the characters and plot established. I'm also really curious to see what the show looks like once it's burned through its CGI budget (this episode feels very much like Fukuda telling Toei "So you took away the budget from my last show to make Amazons? Well I am literally going to make you pay for that now!"). It's hard to judge much about the characters or the story since we get so little. I think I like Touma? He's very... standard tokusatsu hero-y; lots of shouting about protecting people and making promises and shit. Mei is our Akiko/Shunpei/Onari comic relief sidekick. I'm automatically disinclined to like her, but at least she's only over-acting a little bit. I do like the gimmick of the monster creating a weird pocket dimension, but I only see that lasting until the episode budget starts shrinking. I totally get the Sentai comparisons. It's not because there are kids; there is a definite aesthetic to the show that is very Sentai. The goofy sound effects and humor are part of that - they make the show feel like its skewing towards a younger audience than Zero-One. The stock footage transformation and attacks are a huge part of it, though. That is a very Sentai technique. And then there's the end credits... It's neat that we have an ending theme again. Some of my favorite Kamen Rider songs are from the ending credits. That said, I hate this ending with a passion. I was literally talking back to the computer screen as it aired, saying things like "What? This is not a dancing credits. No. No, no, no. This isn't fucking Sentai." Yeah, I just... no. That was awful. Never do this again, Kamen Rider. That was probably a pretty rambling post. I'm writing this immediately after watching the episode while I have a lot of thoughts running through my head. Sorry if that was all kind of a jumble. tl;dr: I'm seeing a lot of red flags, but I'm willing to give the show a chance to win me over. No more dancing ever. Last edited by Switchblade; 09-06-2020 at 12:50 PM.. |
09-06-2020, 12:35 PM | #33 |
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Actually despite what I said about other similarities, the ending dance reminds me not of Sentai, but more like the kinds you see in those Japanese evening live-action slice-of-life shows. I mean I've not really watched many shows like that, but the enclosed space, elaborate movements and modest-energy song just gave me that impression. It doesn't strike me as the kind of dancing tune they're gonna get the kids to dance along to at stage shows or anything.
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09-06-2020, 01:03 PM | #34 |
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I can't speak to the Sentai comparisons because I've never really watched Sentai, but to me, this felt like a pretty standard, by-the-books () first episode of Kamen Rider. Didn't really feel all that different or unusual to me compared to many other first episodes of this franchise.
That said, overall, I think I liked it for the most part. Yeah it was rushed, and most of the humor was more obnoxious than funny, but again, I expect that from a first episode. I don't expect either of those things to be long-lasting issues. Everything else though I was pretty interested in. Not much to say yet about any of the characters, but I did like Touma. The big takeaway for me though was how much I'm into the whole aesthetic of it, which I wasn't expecting at all. Based on the promotional images, I wasn't terribly impressed by the suit designs, but after seeing the main Saber suit in action, it really won me over. I like that suit a lot now, I thought it looked really great on screen and in motion. And along with that, I just liked the general style of the show. The fantasy world looked cool, and I thought the music was good. I'm surprised by how much I ended up liking all that, considering how uninterested in it I was after the initial reveals. So yeah it was an overall good start to me, pleasantly surprised. All of my issues with it are things that plague most first episodes of Kamen Rider, so I'm not terribly bothered by them as of now. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
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09-06-2020, 01:26 PM | #35 |
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This show,first episode in,kinda blows...all the things I hate about toku in one episode.
VERY "Kamen Sword Sentai" I lost interest about 20 minutes in. Even Ghost didn't turn me off like this until about 20 episodes in. Still gonna buy his Figuarts,though. Gotta get them all. Not much to add except felt like I was watching the *newest* Sentai show v-cinema..who knows,maybe it will get less lame |
09-06-2020, 01:44 PM | #36 |
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Actually they were holding hands before. I had to check again when I saw the pinkie holding but yeah somehow they went from holding hands to a pinkie swear.
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09-06-2020, 02:10 PM | #37 |
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Hi, I'm new in the forum so I just want to give my impressions overall. English isn't my first language so I hope to not mess it up a lot.
I have been reading all your messages, and while I agree with them, I think the biggest problem with this episode is the way the scenes were cut. For example, the scene where Touma is trying to save his friend/sister just with his pinky, it feels dumb and a forced way to indicate friendship. However, like 10 seconds before, you can see how they were holding their hands, but your attention as a viewer is focused around the big portal sucking everything, there's no way you can notice it in your first time watching it. I would rather put them holding hands, but then their lose their grip and have to use the pinky as a last resort. Then Touma says something like "I promise I'll protect you" or something like that and then the girl is sucked into the book, just by that I think all the emphasis on promises would have had better impact. Another scene that lost that "wow" effect on me when was Touma was trying to reach Rekka, because when the sword appears, by perspective, it feels like it is two or three meters away from Touma. We see that he's trying to protect from the flames but I never felt that he was moving, maybe just add a shot of his feet trying to walk would have convinced me. I get what they were trying to accomplish, it just didn't land on me. Another thing I would like to talk is why I the disconnection between Touma as civilian and as a rider feel so strong. Because, riders being experts at combat is nothing new, it's a trope at this point. However, for me it's the scene where the monster changes the scenario where this feels the most. Let's assume that as books, these things contain the knowledge to fight, however knowledge is not the same as execution. When Touma adapts so quickly at these changes it feels like really choreographed. Something I think Ghost and Zero-One handled much better, because, if memory serves right, When Takeru first transformed he had troubles with floating around, while Aruto couldn't calculate how much power his legs had at the moment. These minor details keep the illusion that we're seeing a rookie in the beginning of their journey. Also, even those green screen and CGI scenario felt really disconnected, aside from illumination, they felt random. I don't know that's just my opinion. On the subject of being too Sentai, I never felt the Sentai feeling until I saw the big monster, because I have seen that kind of shot multiple times in Power Rangers and Sentai. So at the moment I didn't know what to make for it, because I had no sense of scale. And, to be honest, I didn't got it. At the start of the battle it looks like a 20-meter tall monster, then after the finisher it looks like 5-meter tall and goes back to 20 right after that scene. Moving on to more positive things. The suit is amazing, it has two color combinations that I love, red & black and red & white. The CGI, while not the best, it accomplishes what it needs to do. I have to give props to the imagery of the pages making the finisher and also when Blades enters the scene, because it feels that they're narrating the story/legend/tale of this new Kamen Rider. Mei is kind of annoying, however it's too early to judge, I think if this response it's loud enough they will tone her down. I mean, Aruto used to yell a lot before, so I'll just wait. Overall, it's a weak first episode, but also had to give us a lot of information in a really short amount of time. I have extended a lot in this post, so I'll just leave it there. I hope future posts don't being so long but I just had a lot of thoughts in my mind and I had to get them out. |
09-06-2020, 02:40 PM | #38 |
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So I really dig Touma as a main character. Alot of times shows like this have the protagonist just be nice to a random kid to let us know he's a hero. But I dig that he seems to genuinely like children, to the point where he opened up a store to make kids happy about reading & have fun imagining & making up stories. It feels like a different type of pure & I dig that.
The CGI was weird, not sure if I'll get used to it or not. The Henshin was alot, hopefully they'll tone it down in future episodes. They did throw alot of stuff at us very early, but I feel like it'll be fleshed out ad time goes on. Overall so long as Touma stays wholesome & fun I'm done to keep up with Saber. |
09-06-2020, 03:07 PM | #39 |
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When Touma adapts so quickly at these changes it feels like really choreographed. Something I think Ghost and Zero-One handled much better, because, if memory serves right, When Takeru first transformed he had troubles with floating around, while Aruto couldn't calculate how much power his legs had at the moment.
Even one throwaway line like "I feel the sword's power flowing through me, it's telling me what to do!" or something, suggesting that the techniques of its former master are imprinted on the blade and simply by transforming into Saber, Touma has a basic access to the might of the previous Saber. But yes, it's Kamen Rider, this has all happened before and it will happen again. Quote:
Keep up the great work; I look forward to reading more from you in the future |
09-06-2020, 07:57 PM | #40 |
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I did not like this episode. The dialogue felt very odd for me to the point that a tiny part of me hoped Gemn Corps slipped up on their subbing. But hopefully it's just because this was a very packed up first episode where episode 2 is better.
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