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08-03-2018, 10:25 AM | #41 |
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They've established that back during the Bikaiser movie.
Rider Multiverse isn't that new of a thing though. W kind of cemented it after Decade. Out of Heisei era stuff: Kuuga and Agito might be connected, might be two different worlds. Ryuuki is its own world, as is Faiz, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, and Kiva. Decade is all worlds, but connects back to original too and has other alternate versions of those worlds. Decade's belt itself though is from original Rider world, which means it's same universe as W. It was the multiverse access belt. W is connected to original riders, but different city. OOO and Fourze are too(allegedly at least). Then Wizard is a new world, Gaim is a new world. Drive is connected to original(allegedly), as is Ghost, and Ex-Aid, then Build is a new world. So not counting the decade alternate worlds. Almost all after Decade have been connected except Gaim, Wizard, and Build. Whereas everything before Decade is mostly not connected, except for maybe Kuuga and Agito. Then everything pre-Kuuga (Showa era) is connected except Shin and maybe Black/Black RX(can't remember on this one). Though Shin may have been retconned to be connected to original. This is also why Foundation X in W reappears in most series except Wizard and Gaim, and makes no mention of the henshin gear in Wizard or Gaim. Effectively, Build was their first experience with parallel worlds. Though we do know Gaim can visit Ex-Aid's world and the W connected series. And Wizard and Gaim spilled over into each others worlds too. So they're all parallels of each other too. Then the First, The Next(sequel to The First), and Amazons are their own things. Originally, Amazons was supposed to be connected to The First/Next. But I think that since changed. Not sure. Because of Build being connected to Ex-Aid though, it's already connected to a large chunk of other series by establishing that Ex-Aid is one of the parallel worlds to Build in series. Which means Sky-wall or no sky-wall, if they can find a way to open a way to a parallel world, they'll have access to Ex-Aid's parallel world, which by connections, means they can access all worlds that Decade can as part of that multiverse, and Decade had access to all and variants of. So by connection, Decade has access to Build's world. It's more Decade may not be aware of its existence as yet. Kiva technically might have access too thanks to Castle Doran. Wataru/Kiva main world(non-alternate) did reach Decade. So Kiva's show world does seemingly have a way to multiverse travel, if even only temporary like the time door. So in theory, this means Zi-O has access to all too. Including eras within each. Like Kiva's past timeline and present day timeline(well now that's 10 years ago). Which also means Zi-O has access to the full range of Den-O timelines/eras too. Now what world Zi-O is, hasn't been said yet. Could be the main W/Originals world with Decade, or could be another new world altogether, or any mix therein of any of them. For all we know it could even be a tangent timeline of Den-O. Oh! And the oft forgotten Kamen Rider G is officially part of original/W's world. Depending on how far they've planned ahead, Zi-O might also feature future worlds that have yet to have a series. They've seemingly been planning far enough ahead, it's possible, but who knows. Build will likely merge to the Ex-Aid world since that's the one they've been to before, but it may spill over to any for all we know. Wonder if it might cause a marvel "Secret Wars" kind of battleworld too. Lots of things could go wrong there. But if they merge to Ex-Aids world, then it's part of the mainline/originals. But this is also a Rider show. Odd cliffhangers that leave us wondering what comes next is common. So they could very well end up in some random world by accident too, or Zi-O's world if Zi-O isn't part of the "originals" timeline. I've already explained how Kuuga is shown as being part of the same world as Fourze, OOO, W, and the Showa Riders. Furthermore, the crossover films have repeatedly shown all the main riders as being part of the same world. That is the approach they will likely take with Zi-O - that Build was the only one separate, and now isn't. The AR Riders, as well as the concept of the ten Heisei Riders loving on different worlds was abandoned after Decade. Literally everything since has shown them all in the same world. Does it work? No. Faiz ended with tonnes of Orphenochs still around, and Kuuga/Agito and Blade have very contradictory creation myths...but Toei didn't care. They didn't with Gokaiger, and they won't here. Last edited by The Chaos Entity; 08-03-2018 at 10:30 AM.. |
08-03-2018, 11:02 AM | #42 |
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" Kuuga/Agito and Blade have very contradictory creation myths"
...or Hibiki,...or Ryuki....all so different. Doesn't bother me though. I tend to view a Kamen Rider as a sort of 'type' of superhero, and all the Kamen Rider shows have a hero that sort of fits that mold. I do however admit to very much preferring Kamen Riders that are Bugs rather than...Rabbits,...Cars....whatever some of them like Den-O or Ex-Aid are. Hibiki did look really cool though. The (Oni?) look was very cool, even the horns looked cool. I didn't like the 'music as a weapon' aspect though, at all. I hate the Unicorn Horns that Blood Stalk and Night Rogue had. I can't take the unicorn look very seriously. Looks really silly to me. But yeah a lot of the Kamen Rider shows seem to sort of contradict each other. Both in style, history, storytelling, aesthetics, etc. They're still generally fun to watch though which I guess is all that really matters. |
08-03-2018, 02:46 PM | #43 |
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Most of that is blatant fanon.
I've already explained how Kuuga is shown as being part of the same world as Fourze, OOO, W, and the Showa Riders. Furthermore, the crossover films have repeatedly shown all the main riders as being part of the same world. That is the approach they will likely take with Zi-O - that Build was the only one separate, and now isn't. The AR Riders, as well as the concept of the ten Heisei Riders loving on different worlds was abandoned after Decade. Literally everything since has shown them all in the same world. Does it work? No. Faiz ended with tonnes of Orphenochs still around, and Kuuga/Agito and Blade have very contradictory creation myths...but Toei didn't care. They didn't with Gokaiger, and they won't here. |
08-03-2018, 03:00 PM | #44 |
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Trying to wrap around stuff like that post earlier is precisely the reason why I've always tried to lie to myself and say every season takes place in a completely separate continuity.
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08-03-2018, 03:23 PM | #45 |
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Yeah, I feel the best way to describe Rider continuity is "Outside of Build, everything all takes place in the same universe.....somehow".
Kabuto is probably a separate universe as well.
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08-03-2018, 08:06 PM | #46 |
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At times it is easier to just think of Sentai and Rider shows as a multiverse that sometimes takes place in the same world depending on whatever is going on that week. Hell most sentai shows have plots that scream seperate world, then Gokaiger comes along and suddenly every team before them totally happened in the same world, then we have a Decade where every rider has a another version in another universe ! GAH ! " smashes face in desk " Well at least since they have used the multiversee theme before in both sentai and rider shows we can at least say it is officially a multiverse, until they are not ! " cackles " |
08-04-2018, 06:34 AM | #47 |
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Just a reminder- Kamen Rider Build will not air this weekend due to a baseball championship. Next episode airs August 12th.
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08-04-2018, 12:27 PM | #48 |
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**shakes fist at the sky!**
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08-04-2018, 08:17 PM | #49 |
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08-05-2018, 08:06 PM | #50 |
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