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04-16-2024, 09:11 PM | #661 |
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Solid middle chapter of an episode, and I'm glad while we're on our way towards a confrontation we haven't started said confrontation yet. Will say though I love the idea that Road, this pretty unique memory when we first see it, can be easily mass-produced and there's just an army of these hungry dudes.
That being said, wow you are putting a lot of pressure on 1 Cour of an Anime Adaptation of a currently ongoing Manga (140+ Chapters) to do some big wrap-up on things that'll likely take longer than these three episodes will allow. |
04-16-2024, 10:34 PM | #662 |
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I'll probably come down definitively on one side or another after Episode 12 of Fuuto PI, but I'm starting to feel like even introducing Bando before the finale was a mistake. There's just so little time to set him up and pay anything off, you know? Better to introduce Tokime and Shadow Fuuto in 1-3, then just avoid it for 4-9, and maybe leave on this season with the note of there being someone behind it all, and that's Bando, cliffhanger, done for a season. That, or every episode needed to be building to this in a more pronounced way. The in-between way of slowly seeding clues and stuff... no time! You've got no time to just dole out little bits!
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04-16-2024, 10:42 PM | #663 |
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I'm... legit not sure how that'd even be possible.
We're talking about a 1 cour manga adaptation. They're not making this story up as they go, they're going through an already existing story with its own moving pieces and pacing. Unless you want filler or heavily altering the source material, then there's not much the crew can do here. They already had to cut an arc from the manga to maybe kind of get a more satisfactory stopping point. In which they've already had to do double duty adding in what pieces of the prior arc to this adaptation to make it work. |
04-16-2024, 10:52 PM | #664 |
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I'm... legit not sure how that'd even be possible.
We're talking about a 1 cour manga adaptation. They're not making this story up as they go, they're going through an already existing story with its own moving pieces and pacing. Unless you want filler or heavily altering the source material, then there's not much the crew can do here. They already had to cut an arc to a manga to maybe kind of get a more satisfactory stopping point. In which they've already had to do double duty adding in what pieces of the prior arc to this adaptation to make it work. I don't think I'm putting a strong emphasis on a conclusion for this season? I didn't feel like this story was ever going to wrap up -- for whatever value of "wrap up" you feel is appropriate for a 12-episode season -- in just four stories. I don't think where we're at is bad entertainment-wise, it's just structurally problematic and somewhat lurching in its storytelling. I don't know if skipping stories to get to this confrontation with Bando in Shadow Fuuto is worth it, since (as you pointed out) there's dozens more chapters of the manga to go, and no promise of any further episodes of the animated series. I think it's okay to suggest that the show should've maybe gone All Bando or No Bando, rather than splitting the difference? Again, since I feel like I'm maybe not coming across as I intended: What they made was fine, and I get that it's adapting as much material as they can in the time allotted. But I think it's fair to wonder if, knowing how much time they had allotted, they maybe could've made other changes to the source material in order to better balance the pacing of their narrative. Or just not done this particular story in the first season, in favor of lighter material that was easier to fit into 12 episodes?
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04-17-2024, 04:04 AM | #665 |
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I have zero idea how you got the idea that we're gearing up with some sort of final fight with Bando.
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04-17-2024, 05:29 AM | #666 |
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So En-chan’s already mentioned the perspective that our starter villain who W beat as easily as any of Museum’s patrons was just a mook in Street’s grand scheme of things, so I’ll mention that in the manga, the kid actually succeeded in getting Tokime to strip naked, but as I mentioned a while ago, this is being marketed as a kids show in some countries, mostly Asian ones.
That said, I do love Tokime finding her resolve at the episode’s end. |
04-17-2024, 08:14 AM | #667 |
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04-17-2024, 10:55 AM | #668 |
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Maybe it's just me, but your emphasizing over his place in the story over the last few posts, your disappointment at Reactor not being a high rank in the enemy organization, as well as a "confrontation with Bando in Shadow Futo" (which isn't even what's happening) gave off that impression.
My bad for the misunderstanding.
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04-17-2024, 01:19 PM | #669 |
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Maybe it's just me, but your emphasizing over his place in the story over the last few posts, your disappointment at Reactor not being a high rank in the enemy organization, as well as a "confrontation with Bando in Shadow Futo" (which isn't even what's happening) gave off that impression.
My gripe (if you want to call it that -- I like this show! I liked the last episode! I feel like that's maybe being overlooked!) is that I feel like this show would've been better off either going all-in on the Shadow Fuuto storyline, or not trying to get to a season-ending confrontation with that group in the fourth storyline. It's one thing for an open-ended manga to pace its confrontation this early (although it sounds like this is earlier than the manga had it?), but it's a little soon for an anime with only four stories to tell. As always, this is just how I'm taking the show! It's not a judgment, and it certainly isn't meant to invalidate someone else's experience with it! I feel like things are getting a little contentious in this thread, so please don't take this as some condemnation of the series! I am enjoying this show!
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04-17-2024, 02:54 PM | #670 |
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I forgot how much I liked Reactor as a villain. He's just a dude who has a job that he takes pride in and doesn't appreciate having people maskedly riding all up in his business. Does that business involve murdering a whole bunch of people in order to create a shadow dimension city for blatantly nefarious purposes? Yes. Is that going to keep him from committing 100% to the job? No. Does he have possibly the single most impressive mustache in any form of Kamen Rider media? Probably.
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