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10-02-2020, 02:29 AM | #1991 |
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I'd argue it's already unwatchable. It's already 20+ movies in with only a handful of solidly decent films. None of them are anything close to a Citizens Kane level of quality. Which I don't expect them to be but they could at least try once in awhile. Plus they couldn't stay away from propaganda, with Captain Marvel being perhaps the worst film in the franchise with an incredibly unlikable and highly politicized protagonist. But it goes deeper than that. The Thor films has Idris Elba playing the Norse God Heimdall, a fair skinned divine being of Asgard said in the Poetic Edda to have literally fathered the Nordic race and the direct link of ethnic Asatruar practitioners and Western Europeans as a whole to Odin the All-Father. Obviously intentional and clearly offensive (think about the outrage if an African deity was played by an Asian or European actor). I cannot watch Thor films anymore for that reason, even Ragnarok, which I did enjoy. I do not appreciate my heritage being diminished to half assed entertainment and subverted to have non-Nordic people play Norse Gods. I wasn't a fan of the comics doing it and I definitely am not a fan of the films doing it as well. Which I got to admire a film like Black Panther but at the same time be a bit envious of it too as Marvel can put all the time an attention to a fictitious African tale (as in not a legitimate African folk tale but loosely based on African folk tales) in having a nearly complete black cast, but they cannot afford the same respect to Nordic folk stories by having only Nordic actors play Norse Gods. Don't even get me started on Valkyrie. I hate these kinds of double standards and the hard push of certain topics for a desperate attempt to be "with it" in the current cultural climate.
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10-02-2020, 02:32 AM | #1992 |
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10-02-2020, 06:16 AM | #1993 |
Dai Shogun
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Which I got to admire a film like Black Panther but at the same time be a bit envious of it too as Marvel can put all the time an attention to a fictitious African tale (as in not a legitimate African folk tale but loosely based on African folk tales) in having a nearly complete black cast, but they cannot afford the same respect to Nordic folk stories by having only Nordic actors play Norse Gods.
Heimdall is a Nordic god, they shapeshift. He was a fish once in mythology. If he wants to look like Idris Elba he can. I personally don’t know where you’re from, but talking about Nordic gods as your "heritage" if you’re not from Scandinavia specifically or Germanic Europe as a whole sounds like you're reaching. Hell, I'm from Germany, no one talks about Germanic deities here unless it's fiction. They don’t matter to the wide population. Also, about the "double standard", before you try to complain about that please remember which ethnicity has almost 100 years of movie history entirely dedicated towards them, no one else, and then think about if black people are applying a "double standard" or if you are. And lastly, please stop it with the "propaganda"-whining if you want to be taken seriously. You sound ridiculous. |
10-02-2020, 06:38 AM | #1994 |
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It only took one comic book movie made for black culture to make white people bitch and moan about not being represented correctly. For fucks sake.
Heimdall is a Nordic god, they shapeshift. He was a fish once in mythology. If he wants to look like Idris Elba he can. I personally don’t know where you’re from, but talking about Nordic gods as your "heritage" if you’re not from Scandinavia specifically or Germanic Europe as a whole sounds like you're reaching. Hell, I'm from Germany, no one talks about Germanic deities here unless it's fiction. They don’t matter to the wide population. Also, about the "double standard", before you try to complain about that please remember which ethnicity has almost 100 years of movie history entirely dedicated towards them, no one else, and then think about if black people are applying a "double standard" or if you are. And lastly, please stop it with the "propaganda"-whining if you want to be taken seriously. You sound ridiculous. All I read here is the reinforcement of double speak to justify a double standard and shame those that aren’t on the victimhood pedestal. You sound ridiculous. Get back to me when Germany becomes German again. |
10-02-2020, 06:58 AM | #1995 |
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Wait till I tell you about theories people are building that the Vikings weren't the pure white ubermenschs you seem to think they were.
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10-02-2020, 07:07 AM | #1996 |
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10-02-2020, 07:19 AM | #1997 |
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Fuck off dude. You of all people don’t get to tell me what’s German and what's not.
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10-02-2020, 08:12 AM | #1998 |
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10-02-2020, 10:27 AM | #1999 |
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Nachos and pepper jack cheese sound so good right now.
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10-02-2020, 10:30 AM | #2000 |
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Yo guys, figured I'd ask this here, instead of just making a new thread that'd possibly go nowhere.
So, I was reading some older topics on the boards when I came across this one wherein apparently there used to be a Secret Santa held. And really, given what 2020 has put us all through, I personally think some holiday cheer is something we could all use. I'd definitely be down to contribute to it, but would anyone else be interested? If so, I have no problem creating a new thread to organize it in.
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