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02-13-2021, 07:00 AM | #1 |
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The Kiramagers must venture to Yodonheim to stop the newly-empowered Garzas' ultimate rampage.
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02-14-2021, 06:09 AM | #2 |
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Dang. Just... dang.
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02-14-2021, 06:43 AM | #3 |
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I was expecting juru to be a bamish missing positive half of garza of something given his special connection to crystalia memories as well as machine creations. I enjoyed it, but turning garza good and reviving yodon is such a cop out cliche. I wished instead of fighting silver there would have been an extend super kiramei red vs lord garza for the first half of this episode.
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02-14-2021, 05:56 PM | #4 |
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I was expecting juru to be a bamish missing positive half of garza of something given his special connection to crystalia memories as well as machine creations. I enjoyed it, but turning garza good and reviving yodon is such a cop out cliche. I wished instead of fighting silver there would have been an extend super kiramei red vs lord garza for the first half of this episode.
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02-15-2021, 06:21 AM | #5 |
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Man, and I thought Hurricaneger episode 15 was going to be the “Arakawa episode letting me down” fix I got this week. Boy, was I wrong.
Yeah, I really don’t like the whole “Garza was good all along” twist. And bringing back Yodon feels like a waste of the Lord Garza suit. But the highlight of this episode was seeing Basra and Hildon with no Jamen. If only we’d seen Shellga and Gomoryu receive the same treatment. |
02-15-2021, 07:56 AM | #6 |
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This was okay, but it was also every cliche that I had felt confident Kiramager was either not going to do or put some spin on, since this show looked like it was so consistently setting up 'typical' conclusions and then subverting them. At least, I really can't see the last episode going any way other than the hundred-thousandth iteration of 'the heroes make the nebulously evil overlord explode'. I was really looking forward to Garza completely stealing the show and the Emperor just having been a complete bait-and-switch!
But what is here is just fine. It's just fine. I've been waiting a long time for Garza and Juuru's rivalry to come back into the spotlight. I was almost afraid it had simply faded away entirely when the latter half of the show put much more emphasis on Garza's dynamic with the King and Takamichi (not to say those weren't necessary in fleshing them all out), but I'm glad that at the end, its KiramaRed who 'defeats' him, even if I'm maybe just a little underwhelmed by how neatly and quickly it happens. |
02-15-2021, 08:12 AM | #7 |
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This was okay, but it was also every cliche that I had felt confident Kiramager was either not going to do or put some spin on, since this show looked like it was so consistently setting up 'typical' conclusions and then subverting them. At least, I really can't see the last episode going any way other than the hundred-thousandth iteration of 'the heroes make the nebulously evil overlord explode'. I was really looking forward to Garza completely stealing the show and the Emperor just having been a complete bait-and-switch!
But what is here is just fine. It's just fine. I've been waiting a long time for Garza and Juuru's rivalry to come back into the spotlight. I was almost afraid it had simply faded away entirely when the latter half of the show put much more emphasis on Garza's dynamic with the King and Takamichi (not to say those weren't necessary in fleshing them all out), but I'm glad that at the end, its KiramaRed who 'defeats' him, even if I'm maybe just a little underwhelmed by how neatly and quickly it happens. I did find it lame that all of Garza's ~eeevil~ came from Yodonheim, but in a vacuum I like him a lot more than other last-minute villain redemptions; it comes off as very tragic.
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02-15-2021, 08:27 PM | #8 |
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There are two big things this episode reminds me of.
One is, of all things, Kamen Rider Ghost, which had a third-to-last episode that is almost astonishingly similar to this one in terms of the setup and basic structure, with all the heroes hopping over to Bad Guy World for a climactic showdown with one of the show's main villains, a member of that world's royal family, filled with resentment towards his relatives, who was also not always on such a destructive path, and might even have the potential for redemption. Like, uh, writing it all down like that, it might even be more than just superficial? A lot of the thematic meat underpinning each take on this idea is very much the same. What's a little painful to say, following on from there, is that I think Kiramager has a few missteps in its execution of this plot that are glaring enough to hold it back from being as great as it could be. Namely, and this is huge – removing the element of free will from Garza's turn to the dark side also removes the drama of the entire plot thread. I still really enjoyed the episode in spite of this for reasons I'll get to in a bit, but I don't want to mince words here. Saying Emperor Yodon put some kind of spell over Garza as a child that made him hate his family is fundamentally uninteresting compared to the alternative, and I'm struggling to see how it fits into Kiramager's ordinarily insanely consistent and strong thematic core. The idea of Garza as an embittered artist, angry at the world for refusing to acknowledge his greatness to a level that satisfied him, that was rich was potential. I had the thought that Emperor Yodon might still be the real final boss last week, but quickly put it aside because Garza seemed like so much of a better fit as the foe to end the entire series on. I wanted to see these last few episodes dig into him like never before, adding new context to his actions and tying it all back together. And, to be fair, I did get all of that here! It's mostly that sticking point of the new context in question removing depth rather than adding it. Everything I know about Kiramager points to it being a show that would only ever present the idea that demons over our shoulders are the ones responsible for our issues if it also specifically wanted to subvert that later, and make a point about how we can only choose for ourselves whether or not to let negativity fester in our hearts or some other genius thing I'd be praising effusively. I mean, there's still time, I guess! The fact that Garza was given the straight up monster of the week explosion seems more definitive than usual, but we've already had a villain or two appear to die only to turn out to still have a bigger role left to play. It would make me very happy to see Kiramager redeem some of the seemingly weaker aspects of this episode before it ends! All of that being said, though, I'm okay enough if it doesn't, too, because the other thing this one reminded me of was nearly every 90's Sentai I've ever seen, and in the best way possible. It's the benefit of Arakawa being the writer, I think. Plenty of recent final Sentai arcs have had some great stakes, but there's something irresistibly old school about how this one is playing out. I struggle to put my finger on exactly why, but it's seriously only missing the Kiramagers' base getting blown to bits to be more on point. Just something about Emperor Yodon's whole vibe, and the idea of the heroes not so much trying to prevent things from going to crap so much as they are trying to uncrapify the whole planet is great. And then on top of that you of course get these juicy bits of series lore, and an epic rival showdown, and all this stuff on top of that, and it's pretty much flawless, despite also being a flawed episode. I mean, I'm being way more critical than usual, but I'm not even slightly upset, because the way this was all delivered was still so undeniably entertaining, with great moments for Garza, Oradin, Juuru, and even Tametomo! That last one in particular probably goes a long way towards explaining why I still had a good time here. I can't help how much I like these characters and this show! I mean, come guys – it's still Kiramager, right?
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02-15-2021, 09:38 PM | #9 |
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So, this episode is like a mix of JetMan Rie Aoi/Maria of JetMan and Satoru "Chief" Akashi/BoukenRed of Boukenger, right? In JetMan, Rie was being used by Vyram's leader Radiguet, who killed the former because of Rie's backstabbing him. Ryuu Tendou/Red Hawk got mad at Radiguet for killing his girlfriend and two episodes later, the latter was killed as the JetMan robots were merely reduced to scrap metals. Because of this, Kaori Rokumeikan/White Swan became Ryuu's wife and remained so to this very day. And in Boukenger, Satoru was almost killed when the Precious Bank was destroyed and at the same time, Ryuuwon would be dead...or was it? Thankfully, Zuuban protected him and together, they rode in the GoGoVoyager. Five years later, the Gokaigers as Boukengers were having a hard time fighting against the revived Ryuuwon, but in the end, the latter got finally killed by Gokai Adventure Drive finisher. Don't tell me Juuru is Satoru/Chief Version 2.0. How will Mitsuomi Takahashi reacts on this one, even though he's too busy right now?
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02-16-2021, 07:30 AM | #10 |
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Remember that episode early on in the show, like episode 4, where Garza pretended to be a good guy, saying he's under the influence of the Emperor, just to get the white crystal, but was like "Surprise, I've always been bad and tricked you". Only to find out, he really was under the influence of the Emperor, but doesn't remember.
Why can't we have a straight up evil family member that is evil of their own free will and doesn't get redeemed, I'd be so refreshing for a change. |
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