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05-22-2012, 12:22 AM | #21 |
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Who's to say Leo isn't more powerful than Cosmic States? Besides, CAX is technically more powerful, but only in the the sense that attacks like those of the Terror Dopant would be ineffective on CAX, as the users would be immune. W established that quite nicely. I see where you are going, but I think I'll trust Shroud's judgement.
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05-22-2012, 12:29 AM | #22 |
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Nobody's perfect. But Shroud is allowed that miscalculation, as she created the tech. It does nothing (major) to my opinion and faith in Shroud's judgement. Besides, it's probably only maternal reflex.
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05-22-2012, 03:07 AM | #23 |
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I understand your nitpicking KRX, but Shoutaro exceeded their expectations to begin with and proved to be the most ideal partner for Phillip. If Terui was that candidate, they certainly would have shown it by now. It's almost like saying that the maker is 100% right and that their creations are not capable of doing things beyond their comprehension. There are plenty of fictional and non-fictional cases of this happening... it's a story trope that happens all the time. So unless proven otherwise, it really isn't anything significant other than a good "what-if" situation.
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05-22-2012, 07:35 AM | #24 |
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I understand your nitpicking KRX, but Shoutaro exceeded their expectations to begin with and proved to be the most ideal partner for Phillip. If Terui was that candidate, they certainly would have shown it by now. It's almost like saying that the maker is 100% right and that their creations are not capable of doing things beyond their comprehension. There are plenty of fictional and non-fictional cases of this happening... it's a story trope that happens all the time. So unless proven otherwise, it really isn't anything significant other than a good "what-if" situation.
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05-22-2012, 08:50 AM | #25 |
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I fail to see how any of this is Decades fault.
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05-22-2012, 09:17 AM | #26 |
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Decade's lack of a FINAL KAMEN RIDE: D-D-D-DOUBLE card has left us debating on whether CycloneJokerGoldXtreme or CycloneAccelXtreme is Double's final form.
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05-22-2012, 09:20 AM | #27 |
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We have established that Ryu is as capable as Shotarou. Shotarou may have exceeded expectations, but CAX would still be slightly more functional. I realize I may sound like the creator is 100% right, and I know it's not always true. But let's face it; Shroud had every right to underestimate Shotarou after working with Narumi Soukichi for years. Shotarou's good, but he has a long way to go before he's Soukichi good.
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05-22-2012, 09:34 AM | #28 |
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Shroud said, and Philip and Ryu proved, that CAX would be more functional because they would be immune to attacks like those of the Terror Dopant's.
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05-22-2012, 10:00 AM | #29 |
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You walk up to a person, claim you're the strongest person in the universe. But for all we know, you're actually weak as hell. You can't claim that something is so powerful without evidence that it is. Last edited by Kiryu; 05-22-2012 at 10:02 AM.. |
05-22-2012, 03:39 PM | #30 |
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I think I can see where KRX is on this one. According to Shroud CAX would be the strongest form. That statement carries ALOT of weight due to her involvement in developing Skull, W, and Accel. Better than anyone she should know W's true potential. Just because it never happened in show and Shoutaro was able to stay Phillips' partner, it doesn't mean that CAX would be weaker than normal Extreme.
And I know that game appearances don't count really but CAX did appear in at least 2 games if I recall because it's weapons are the Prism Bicker and Engine Blade that it uses simultaneously. Based on actual appearances by normal Extreme, and the lack of one by CAX, we can never really know but I think for now it's safe to say we should stick with normal CJX or Gold for W's final and most powerful form.
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