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10-14-2020, 05:55 AM | #261 |
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So I come here to share some thing interesting about episode 20 and I find you haven’t uploaded your thoughts yet. I guess your work must be particularly rough today.
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10-14-2020, 09:47 AM | #262 |
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As much as I love the daily updates (and I'm keen to wrap up Hibiki before Thanksgiving), skipping Tuesdays is probably going to be necessary going forward. Tuesdays are my heaviest day, so trying to spend a couple hours on a Kamen Rider episode is... not that fun. Worse, Wednesdays are days that make being on the boards to discuss an episode almost entirely impossible, which is also not fun. Between rushing to get an episode done and not even being able to talk with people about it, yeah, Tuesdays might need to be a skip day for a bit. That said, I'm still looking to do 7 a week, so expect a double post somewhere between Thursday and Saturday, depending on the week. Sorry this was a surprise!
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10-14-2020, 10:31 AM | #263 |
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Nah your fine take things ay your own pace you shouldn't apologize for priortizing your life over a simple hobby like this. It's totally understanable to take a break once awhile especially if your job is harder than usual.
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I'm way behind on work, and I don't have a lot of time (I'll dig into the rest of your really good post later), but I want to call out a line from Ibuki that was nearly the screencap I was going to use for this episode.
He's going down the ladder to fight the monster, and Kasumi's worried he's too injured to fight. He says, "My right arm may be injured, but I still have my left." That line! It's all about how he may not have a plan or all his tools, but he can still try to fight. It's him suggesting that as long as he can try, he can win. I love it. Quote:
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It's a great scene, for sure. He approaches those kids on their level (literally, since he crouches down to talk to them), and he's great at trying to impart stakes to them. He knows that they were fine now, but he wants them to know that they got lucky. He's not forbidding them, but he wants them to understand what they're risking. It's very empathetic guidance.
And what's better is that Kasumi is so pissed at him for showing her up like that. Like, she's admiring of how he got through to those kids, but she was scolding them! And then he jumped in! Now he gets to look all Cool Dad and she's just Mean Mom. Parenting is a partnership, Ibuki! Something else I forgot to mention about the fight scene with Oonamazu. Sound travels faster underwater! Ibuki may not have been the best Oni for the job but had a really good tactical advantage here and the setup with shooting the stomach full of stones. At that point, his job was probably easier than Hibiki's. Quote:
Yeah, you're not thrilled with Hitomi feeling weirdly jealous, but you excuse Yuka acting bitchy to Keitaro in Faiz ep. 41, which is even worse behavior... Though now, have nothing against Hitomi, but I don't know where you got Hitomi being smart and capable too? All she did so far was doing usual school life; following lessons and talking with friends, nothing different from other students. Though if you also talk about her passing Jounan.... then Asumu can't get "doofus" label! Also I had uneasiness myself to you expressing regrets to Asumu being friends with those 2, why for that?
Now that I think about, I don't really get what Mochida brings to the show? She doesn't know about the Oni and whatever purpose she may have served at the start seems to have been taken over by Akira as the female lead to Shounen's protagonist role. She's like Mizuki in Amazons S1, before she joined 4C. Yuka snapping at Keitarou was caused by a misunderstanding (which, yes, is very Faiz, but it's a great source of conflict) since Keitarou was given two contradicting messages from "Osada" and Yuka, the first that she loved Kaido and not him, and the second that he should try holding her hand. Yuka didn't know Keitarou was referring to her in the email so she assumed he was being desperate after she friendzoned him. Quote:
Game movie adaptations are most, if not all, bad like that (seems like no passion is run during its making, so unfair to actual fans who can't make one, yet produces much better fan contents within that game), though that quote is hit enough on the internet, for various other media. And you know what? This quote is used to represent someone's totally lack of empathy and concern (typically of course, irredeemable villains) towards something which is like, a damage they do to someone in their backstory, it's too far fetched to use this on Hibiki.
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI VOLUME 18 - “UNRELENTING HURRICANE”
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Beyond Ibuki and Kasumi, though, there’s so much warmth spread around this episode. Asumu pitching in at Team Hibiki Bar and Grill, to everyone’s congratulations. Hibiki and Midori getting very excited to ship Ibuki and Kasumi. Hibiki fishing for praise (topical!) from Midori, only to get a teasing Pretty Great Oni But An Okay Man from her. Akira hauling ass all over Tokyo and arriving in the nick of time. Asumu sharing his notes with Akira, as everyone besides me starts to ship Akirasumu. (They’re a modern-day Ibuki and Kasumi!) And then everyone (except Todoroki) enjoying a celebratory meal, surrounded by friends and coworkers.
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A lot to unpack!
1) I don't remember the Faiz thing at all, but a lot of it is context? Seeing Hitomi immediately avoid Akira, a girl she previously hit it off with, bummed me out a little bit. It felt a little sudden for me, something about her character I wasn't prepared for. By episode 41 of Faiz, Yuka's very complicated feelings provided context for her being weird. 2) Hitomi consistently seems smarter and more reliable than Asumu. 3) Asumu's a doofus, not an idiot. I expect Asumu to be able to do well at schoolwork! I also expect him to miss romantic cues, act awkwardly in social situations, and generally behave in the very specific teenage boy way where you shake your head and chuckle at him. Those don't strike me as highly-desirable traits in a potential partner! 4) I don't understand the last question.
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10-14-2020, 07:49 PM | #266 |
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Maybe the kids are also a reflection of how Kasumi thinks of Ibuki. Like how Ibuki needs Kasumi to pick out his clothes. But Ibuki is able to have a civilized discussion with the kids and reveals that those kids are actually pretty reasonable and they learn something from the experience thanks to his mentoring skills. It's the same thing Midori said to Hibiki, that he's a cool Oni but an okay guy. These guys look way more competent when they're in their element and seeing Ibuki in his element is what allows Kasumi to appreciate him and see him as more of an adult, which parallels Shounen's desire to quickly prove himself as an adult but without the experience of Ibuki.
Something else I forgot to mention about the fight scene with Oonamazu. Sound travels faster underwater! Ibuki may not have been the best Oni for the job but had a really good tactical advantage here and the setup with shooting the stomach full of stones. At that point, his job was probably easier than Hibiki's. I don't know if that just made sense! Quote:
I didn't want to put a downer on my favorite arc but now would probably be a good opportunity to mention that I didn't get the point of Mochida's envy. It happened in one scene only to be resolved easily in the next scene she appeared in. Where is the conflict here? Maybe this sounds ironic after Faiz but people are too good at communication in this show! Maybe I'm just spoiled for love triangles by Faiz's love hexagon! Hibiki has a lot of great qualities but this probably isn't one of them.
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Now that I think about, I don't really get what Mochida brings to the show? She doesn't know about the Oni and whatever purpose she may have served at the start seems to have been taken over by Akira as the female lead to Shounen's protagonist role. She's like Mizuki in Amazons S1, before she joined 4C.
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I know it's about context, but I still want to hear the explanations ofc, because many times I found people sometimes giving double standard treatment to medias; like blindly hating on something, while giving free pass on similar element that existed in series they like. Well, that means Hitomi's only that relatively to Asumu... And ok I got it for what you said regarding Asumu (though "doofus" seems derogatory to me), he's definitely socially awkward (and I had some part of this as well), and well, this is something unfortunately people often use as insult fuel, especially if they're males (this quite runs on toxic masculinity tbh, ignoring the fact that males are humans too). For the last question, it's about the "There’s a part of me that regrets that we’re in a place where two smart, capable women could squander a burgeoning friendship on (and I love him) a doofus like Asumu." sentence, and I ask why the regret.
For the regret, it's just that The Two Ladies Fight Over A Not-That-Great Dude is such a weird, frustrating trope that I didn't like to see the edges of it blooming in this episode. They didn't really go there, which is great, but just setting it up made me a little disappointed.
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10-14-2020, 08:41 PM | #267 |
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It's really not something you have to apologize for. I'm honestly shocked you've had the endurance to keep these threads going at the pace you do for this long. Let's see... how would you put it? Something like "+10 Rider Points, and Kazuma Kenzaki applauds your commitment to the work you do. Please adjust your TokuNation Scorecard appropriately"?
You gotta do you, is the point. And this gap is actually kinda convenient for me, because there's something about episode 19 I totally forgot to mention, which of course means it's the thing from the episode I most wanted to mention. It's the second episode of the show (the first being 11) to be solely written by Tsuyoshi Kida, who, despite being credited as main writer basically everywhere I've seen, is on record as saying he feels he didn't get to put much of a personal spin on his Hibiki scripts due to Takatera being as involved as he was. In spite of this, he did manage to get one thing into this episode that has his Wizardy fingerprints all over it: Like, of course an episode written by him just HAS to feature a scene where the hero jumps into the frame (and it is always jumping) to save some extras from a monster. It's a classic Rider Rescue, if you will! Quote:
He even gets his first classic Rider rescue in there. Is that a good thing to call it? I'm talking about when there's a monster strangling somebody and the main Rider shows up, hits the monster to knock them away, and then the hapless civilian runs off, too terrified to be bother being grateful about not getting murdered. I feel like Heisei Kamen Rider went on to do this pattern a lot.
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It's really not something you have to apologize for. I'm honestly shocked you've had the endurance to keep these threads going at the pace you do for this long. Let's see... how would you put it? Something like "+10 Rider Points, and Kazuma Kenzaki applauds your commitment to the work you do. Please adjust your TokuNation Scorecard appropriately"?
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI VOLUME 20 - "PURIFYING SOUND"
"I don't feel old I don't feel proud I speak too fast I laugh too loud I am the smallest In the crowd I don't feel old" -Wye Oak, "I Don't Feel Young" Todoroki is a bundle of energy, and for the world of Kamen Rider Hibiki, that makes him weird. The whole aesthetic of this show is Make The Mythic Part Mundane And Make The Mundane Part Mythic, so Todoroki being an Oni that actually has fun with it is... it's just enormously confusing to all of the adults in this one. And, metaphorically, that's kind of key. The people who are confused by Todoroki (I keep wanting to say "troubled", but it's really more confusion than any sense that he's endangering himself) are basically his dad, Zanki; his grandad, Ichiro; and his uncle Hibiki. They've got a system for being an Oni, and Todoroki is doing stuff that's outside that system. They spend most of this episode not getting him, not getting what he feels, and not getting why he's being so weird. It's an episode that's setting us up to have Todoroki's enthusiasm get tempered by failure, or exposed as recklessness. He's rushing into combat, he's getting clocked by Makamou that he should be on the lookout for, and he's just hilariously tense and sweaty in every conversation. Or, not tense, but... awkward? Hyper? Every time he needs to assure someone that he's okay, and he's got control, his responses are basically I'M FINE and I'VE GOT THIS and I DON'T EVER FEEL LIKE A FRAUD and NERVOUS PUKES ARE WHAT CONFIDENT PEOPLE DO RIGHT. It's so unconvincing that it's got to be something that's going to trip him up. He's got to be ready to have his weaknesses exposed by this story, and for his adult mentors to be there to tell him that it's okay, he just needs to slow down. I mean, that's what the Asumu storyline is, right? Asumu's desperate to feel useful at Team Hibiki Bar and Grill (home of the Flaming Oni), so he's working too quickly and making mistakes. He feels terrible about dropping a tray, and he's convinced that Ichiro's going to berate him about it. On the one hand, I don't think we've ever seen Ichiro being anything other than kind and generous, so Asumu's fear feels a little overblown. On the other hand, if you screw up at work and the manager of a demon-exploding franchise/cult asks to speak to you in the basement... I don't know, maybe Asumu's right to be trepidatious! I would've probably quit on the spot and never looked back! It's a haunted ninja house! But, no, Ichiro just tells Asumu to be more thoughtful, to slow down, and not to worry about it. The point seems to be that he already has the trust of his bosses, so there's no need to risk errors by doing too much too fast. Slow down, you've already got the job. Except, that isn't the point of Todoroki's story. I mean, a little, maybe, but not really. (You could argue that Hibiki and Zanki are just there to reassure him, but I'm not sure they have that kind of impact on Todoroki. He doesn't seem, like, changed by them being around.) The point of Todoroki's story is that the adults were wrong, and he's right. His methods may be unorthodox, and they mostly stem from him feeling like he's not doing enough and everyone's secretly disappointed in him (which is incredibly troubling and maybe glossed over in this one), but he gets results, dammit! They couldn't see that he needed to do things differently than they do. Once they see that his Strange New Methods a.k.a. Just A Basic Guitar Solo That's Been Around For Decades is him testifying to his devotion, they get it. Moreover, they support him. Zanki decides to give Todoroki help, but not in the form of more mentoring, but in carrying some of the load for him. It's not about Todoroki not being good enough, so Zanki has to hang around. It's that Todoroki is great, but with some support he could be greater. (Also, shit, Todoroki is great in this episode. That move where he flings his ax to explode the Douji, and then it falls onto the Hime to explode it? God damn! Not a big action-y episode, but that move was bonkers!) I didn't expect this episode to go that way, and it's all the better for it. I like that Todoroki's weirdness isn't something to correct, but something to celebrate. He's a hero. An exceptionally weird, possibly in need of therapy to overcome his feelings of worthlessness, easily excitable hero. Congratulations, you sweaty, bug-eyed close-talker, you.
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KAMEN RIDER HIBIKI VOLUME 19 - “STRUMMING WARRIOR”
Okay, back. (It was so good.) Where was I? Oh, yeah, second: is there such a thing as an episode of Hibiki being too tranquil? And I acknowledge that I’m describing an episode where Todoroki explodes multiple giant crabs and Hibiki does sick jumps on a dirtbike as “too tranquil”, but… yeah, not exactly a big, exciting episode of Kamen Rider. Quote:
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Which, they do! If there’s a secret connection amongst the cast, it mostly gets brought to light as everyone stops by the restaurant for at least a scene and reveals who they are and what their significance is. (I mean, not to Hitomi, of course. She’s a girl! You can’t tell a girl about monsters, despite literally everyone she interacts with in this episode knowing about them!) It’s… cute. It’s just a very cute episode, full of charming scenes and stray dogs and a sweaty tryhard superhero and a group of men who are a beat away from saying That Boy Ain't Right and not much else.
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Sure, that's all fair. Doofus was maybe a little unkind, but it's difficult to see why both Akira and Hitomi might be interested in him at this point. He doesn't seem like that much of a catch!
For the regret, it's just that The Two Ladies Fight Over A Not-That-Great Dude is such a weird, frustrating trope that I didn't like to see the edges of it blooming in this episode. They didn't really go there, which is great, but just setting it up made me a little disappointed. Quote:
I didn't want to put a downer on my favorite arc but now would probably be a good opportunity to mention that I didn't get the point of Mochida's envy. It happened in one scene only to be resolved easily in the next scene she appeared in. Where is the conflict here? Maybe this sounds ironic after Faiz but people are too good at communication in this show! Maybe I'm just spoiled for love triangles by Faiz's love hexagon! Hibiki has a lot of great qualities but this probably isn't one of them.
Now that I think about, I don't really get what Mochida brings to the show? She doesn't know about the Oni and whatever purpose she may have served at the start seems to have been taken over by Akira as the female lead to Shounen's protagonist role. She's like Mizuki in Amazons S1, before she joined 4C. Yuka snapping at Keitarou was caused by a misunderstanding (which, yes, is very Faiz, but it's a great source of conflict) since Keitarou was given two contradicting messages from "Osada" and Yuka, the first that she loved Kaido and not him, and the second that he should try holding her hand. Yuka didn't know Keitarou was referring to her in the email so she assumed he was being desperate after she friendzoned him. "cynical tryhard edgy media with milktoast characters = good " mindset needs to stop, obviously not purge away those completely, but like, this aspect being hailed as something (or worse, considered the only way) to make something appear more complex than it actually is when it degrades and is pretentious in its attempt. Unless you meant for conflict being just any obstacles, struggles, and challenges a character need to overcome (like Asumu's story), then sure why not (like probably Akira being Ibuki's apprentice), which is also something I want to convey, that conflict isn't only toxic characters childishly infight all the time, so no need to degrade characters to create conflicts. Yeah there, for last sentence, I want to convey that conflict isn't only about characters acting uncontrollably childish and/or depraved, as you damn well know on Gaim. Like, Asumu's personal fight with the exam and what he try to do to overcome that is also a conflict. Also.. who says Mochida is the female lead? She's never that. The female lead is debated between Kasumi or Akira. Mochida is just that school friend character like the Nozomi in Blade, etc. And they're considered side characters. Quote:
Yeah, this is a recurring trend to any video game adaptations. There are also bunch of other examples like other fighting games like Mortal Kombat, DOA, KoF, and Tekken, also Resident Evil, Silent Hill, etc.
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