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07-08-2021, 09:09 PM | #841 |
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07-08-2021, 09:26 PM | #842 |
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Oh the Den-O Final Stage is definitely something interesting to take a look at.
Admittedly i only did decide to pay attention to the actual Final Stage portion because TripleS went beyond the call of duty to include the entirety of the cast talk before the Final Stage segment. Quote:
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Bubble era Otoya shenanigans The cafe master and Jiro fanboying out on Onyanko club The cafe master and Shima's never-ending bodyfat battles Them suits! SUPERNOVA Double Kiva Rider moments both 80s and 2000s IXAcise Nago's brief period of descent and his blue 753 shirt Masao CONS Occasional Inoue shenanigans we love to hate Still no Kiva V-Cinema starring Masao and his Super Friends Real talk I do love the IXA suit during the 80s in all its prototype-y imperfection. It has a certain charm to it with the limitations that make the battles all the more challenging. And the save mode visor looks cool. Quote:
...so that's maybe why I'm so convinced Kiva will sit with you well in the long-run, even if it doesn't feel that way just yet. To break out a phrase I know you're fond of, Kiva is Kiva, and that's all it has to be if you want. Regardless, thanks for making another great thread, and as always, enjoy the time off! I look forward to our Journey through the Decade!
But, yeah, I don't want to make it seem like I'm tying myself in knots about how I'd describe Kiva as a series. I had a great time watching it, and that's probably the most important part of the journey. It's a little Otoya, when I think about it. That's a dude who lived his life, followed his heart, and let history come to its own conclusions. What's this show but a collection of moments? Why litigate happiness? Why label anything? It was a show, it brought me some joy, it brought me some anger, and now it's over. That's okay. That's enough.
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07-08-2021, 09:46 PM | #843 |
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So for all the computer hardware nerds out there, here are the specs for IXA's system per generation.
1986 IXA (Yuri, Otoya, Jiro) HDD Capacity: 50GB Internal Memory Capacity: 10MB CPU: 10MHz 2008 IXA (Keisuke, Megumi, Kengo) HDD Capacity: 20TB Internal Memory Capacity: 80GB CPU: 7GHz 2008 Rising IXA HDD Capacity: 35TB Internal Memory Capacity: 120GB CPU: 9GHz
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07-09-2021, 05:47 AM | #844 |
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If I liked eating oranges, and I saw you buying up all of the oranges in town, I don't think I'd care a whole lot if you said you were doing it for my benefit.
Taiga's story for a while has been that he thought Wataru was a threat to his rule. Either because he wouldn't tow the line, or because he was going to take Mio away, or now because he was declaring himself king. The idea that Taiga would suddenly be okay with that because a man he hated said that it was for Taiga's own good... I don't think that's how emotions like jealousy work? Quote:
KAMEN RIDER KIVA - SERIES WRAP-UP
The plot of this series… I think it might be my favorite part? Maybe? It’s not like it amounted to much, in the end. Bishop was an idea, not really a threat. King was a threat, but not really an idea. The Fangire culture never felt like a thing, despite all of the royal trappings and pressure on their leadership. But there was a fluidity to the storytelling that I really enjoyed. After Den-O, which would have these lurching Time To Care About Sakurai Again switch-ups in tension and stakes, to have a show that slowly and deliberately evolved its world and expanded its focus? I liked that. I never felt like the Fangire storytelling got in the way of the character storytelling. (God, sometimes it was the other way around, especially in the last few episodes.) The world-building for Kiva was solid and unobtrusive, creating just enough friction for these characters to sharpen up against it. Nothing ever felt like wheel-spinning, and there clearly wasn’t a huge rush to resolve things at the finale. It was just a solid world in which to tell some stories about superheroes and love. Quote:
I don’t know if I liked these characters, though.
I mean, I liked the stories that were told with and about these characters. Nago’s quest to accept that he may have a flaw or two, Megumi’s inability to compartmentalize her work and personal lives (she marries her co-worker!), Kengo’s constant and abiding friendship and decency, Shima’s constant and abiding terribleness as a boss, Yuri’s steadfast warrior spirit, Otoya’s steadfast horny spirit, that time Jiro ate a domino… they are memorably weird characters, and that’s no small thing. But, like, I’m okay saying goodbye to them? For most Kamen Rider shows, reaching the finale is bittersweet. We have to say goodbye to these characters, sometimes forever. The Hibiki finale was almost explicitly about that, and it hits like a punch in the gut. (Sorry to bring up the second half of Hibiki without a Content Warning.) It can suck to lose the characters, even as another show, another set of friends, is on the horizon. I don’t really feel that sad about saying goodbye to these weirdos. I’m okay with their story being done, even as I enjoyed it. This isn’t Den-O, where you had such a good time going on an adventure with your monster friends that you will keep riding the rails until Ryotaro quits to go have a film career, and you’ll still keep going anyway. This is like… this is like gorging yourself on a type of snack. You eat so much of it that you get nauseous thinking of having it ever again. It was good - you wouldn’t’ve eaten so much if it wasn’t - but you would never ask for more of it. These characters and their journeys… I am okay putting them away for good. Quote:
Thematically, I liked a lot of what it was saying, even if I don’t think it was saying the same thing all the way through. I’m not sure if it’s supposed to mirror Wataru’s growth as a man, but I liked the show moving from Wataru’s lack of self-definition into Wataru’s need for connection into Wataru’s self-determination into Wataru’s need for love. There’s a fuzziness to it, maybe, where certain early themes fell by the wayside. (Boy, Inoue pretty much got sick of talking about art and artists, didn’t he?) And the larger theme of Love, using that to encompass both familial and romantic love was sort of tricky, and not entirely successful. (Basically, once Wataru gets horny for Mio, it’s a little weird for him to keep thinking about his mom and dad.) But there’s always a whole bunch to unpack from an Inoue show, and this one was no different. I liked seeing him talk about uncaring systems, and self-determination, and the power of art (when he felt like it), and all of the rest of it. Seeing all of that run through Wataru made for a frequently mystifying, occasionally frustrating, and perpetually fascinating show.
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Speaking of Wataru! I like him. I like that kid. I don’t really care about him, maybe, but I like him.
It’s a weird thing to realize, as a show is ending, that you don’t really care about the title character. I liked his journey, but that was almost always for other characters that intersected with it, or the themes it was dealing with. Wataru himself… eh. He was almost always overshadowed on this show by other characters, and, like, the final episode only works because of the Megumi/Nago plot. That’s not great! That is pretty much a failure from a storytelling perspective, a viewer not caring about the end of the title character’s story. The performance was cute, and there isn’t really a lot to kick about for his series-arc (outside of the last two episodes), but I find myself real lukewarm on Wataru as a hero. Sweet boy, but not a hero I’m finding myself that attached to.
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07-09-2021, 07:50 AM | #845 |
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BTW, how many more volunteers do you need for your Decade thread?
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07-09-2021, 02:14 PM | #846 |
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On that topic! TOKUNATION WATCHES KAMEN RIDER DECADE! I need a week to get my non-toku life back to equilibrium, and then I'll start getting in touch with thread contributors about what show I'd like for them to represent, as well as start some of the pre-thread work. So, somewhere in between July 15th-19th I'll be reaching out to folks. Coming soon! We're going to have a fun summer, you guys!
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07-09-2021, 02:24 PM | #847 |
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Ironically, I am passionate about Decade, but I went with Faiz since I didn’t know what episodes Decade would qualify me for.
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07-09-2021, 02:29 PM | #848 |
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Yeah, I was able to massage everyone's lists enough to accommodate different requests, but that left me without a natural choice for Kabuto or Decade. Definitely some volunteers who could talk about those shows, but ideally we wouldn't be doubling up anyone. We'll see!
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07-09-2021, 08:15 PM | #849 |
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I have some opinions on Decade and utterly forgot about this project
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07-09-2021, 10:31 PM | #850 |
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If you think it's something you want to try, shoot me a PM!
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