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10-05-2012, 08:43 AM | #11 |
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I fixed it. Sometimes when I type I leave out words without realizing. Meant to say "not" before deviating.
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10-05-2012, 06:57 PM | #12 |
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i love frog go buster oh from movie
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10-05-2012, 07:06 PM | #13 |
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I like how the individual mechas look, it's just when you start piling ontop of them that makes it look…not right.
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10-05-2012, 08:58 PM | #14 |
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I think the Ace and Raioh are pretty brilliant. But all of the other machines are pretty awful individually. They're better as individuals than they are combined though. None of the combinations look anywhere near cohesive or coherent to me. EXCEPT the Raioh combos. Those actually look really fantastic to me, especially compared to the awful combos that came before it.
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10-05-2012, 10:38 PM | #15 |
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I think the absolute greatest victory of this line is that the combined forms look cohesive, but not coherent. It seems that those are the two words coming up most often, and people are taking them to mean the same thing. No, Gobuster Oh is not coherent, he looks like a complete mess of robot parts, but for that, he looks cohesive, or convolutedly combined together. Other mechs, like Gokai Oh, look coherent, with each distinct part showing, while they don't look cohesive at all, but rather, like a couple of bricks laid next to each other.
I think the biggest divide here is caused by the fact that different people want different things from combining robots. Gobuster Oh looks pretty odd as a display piece, again, being an amalgamation of random bits and pieces, but he looks like a really cool toy robot for that same reason. I like my robots to look like they've actually combined, as opposed to something traditional. That's my problem with Gokai Oh, Gosei Great, and whatever else. In vehicle mode, the individual components look like arms and legs with wheels, while in combined mode, the components look like animals or vehicles with hands and feet. The individual components of the Gobusters have taken an enormous step forward, by introducing tons of functionality for the individual components, and combined modes that look, well, combined, and I really love the line for that. It's a shame that not everyone could be satisfied by it. And I still don't get how people can say Rai Oh looks better than Gorisaki in any mode. That's just ridiculous. |
10-05-2012, 10:58 PM | #16 |
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GoBuster really, knows how to properly utilize mecha rarely have we seen the same stock footage attack over, and over again. Even when they resort to that with Great Gobusteroh, they at least find creative ways on how to approach the fight, I like that so far Great Gobusteroh isn't they're automatic "I win" button, a problem i've had with Gokaiger despite how much I liked the series
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10-05-2012, 11:04 PM | #17 |
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I think the absolute greatest victory of this line is that the combined forms look cohesive, but not coherent. It seems that those are the two words coming up most often, and people are taking them to mean the same thing. No, Gobuster Oh is not coherent, he looks like a complete mess of robot parts, but for that, he looks cohesive, or convolutedly combined together. Other mechs, like Gokai Oh, look coherent, with each distinct part showing, while they don't look cohesive at all, but rather, like a couple of bricks laid next to each other.
I think the biggest divide here is caused by the fact that different people want different things from combining robots. Gobuster Oh looks pretty odd as a display piece, again, being an amalgamation of random bits and pieces, but he looks like a really cool toy robot for that same reason. I like my robots to look like they've actually combined, as opposed to something traditional. That's my problem with Gokai Oh, Gosei Great, and whatever else. In vehicle mode, the individual components look like arms and legs with wheels, while in combined mode, the components look like animals or vehicles with hands and feet. The individual components of the Gobusters have taken an enormous step forward, by introducing tons of functionality for the individual components, and combined modes that look, well, combined, and I really love the line for that. It's a shame that not everyone could be satisfied by it. And I still don't get how people can say Rai Oh looks better than Gorisaki in any mode. That's just ridiculous. And while everything that makes up the GobusterOh and Great Gobuster may look like they go together how is that an excuse for them looking awful? How does looking like a big pile of odd parts thrown together make it a good toy robot? I'm having trouble understanding how for that reason you can like the GobusterOh but then others use it as an argument against the RaiOh?
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10-05-2012, 11:50 PM | #18 |
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No it isn't ridiculous. The RaihOh is a functional multi-mode figure. Gorisaki is a truck and then he turns into a hollow set of legs with a head attached. He is easily the worst individual figure of the line. Even the Rabbit copter is better than that if for nothing else than how well it transitions from copter to rabbit.
And while everything that makes up the GobusterOh and Great Gobuster may look like they go together how is that an excuse for them looking awful? How does looking like a big pile of odd parts thrown together make it a good toy robot? I'm having trouble understanding how for that reason you can like the GobusterOh but then others use it as an argument against the RaiOh? And I'm not saying that GobusterOh looks good just because he combines together, so much as that he looks like he combines while retaining a distinct look, and that marks him up as a combining toy, as opposed to other Sentai mechs. GobusterOh does have a clear humanoid silhouette, as opposed to looking like just a bunch of animal parts. And I don't mean to turn this into a "I know you are, but what am I" sort of argument, but I don't understand how people say GobusterOh has no coherence while RaiOh's combined form does. They both appear to be just as messy, in their own regards (GBO's crotchplate and thighs sticking out, RaiOh's thighs and shoulders being enormous). My personal adoration for the designs isn't because these toys are the best thing that could have been produced, but it's such a novel and (arguably) solid idea that I can't help but love it compared to the bricks we've been getting. I have no reservation in saying that the flaws are there and apparent, but they're tremendously easy to overlook when one of the official combined modes last year involved taking off two of the main mech's legs and plopping the body onto a lion. A lot of this is based on the toy designs, but I haven't actually messed around with the DX or the Minipla figures, so if I'm being completely ignorant of something that makes me completely wrong, I so concede. |
10-05-2012, 11:50 PM | #19 |
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I think the Ace and Raioh are pretty brilliant. But all of the other machines are pretty awful individually. They're better as individuals than they are combined though. None of the combinations look anywhere near cohesive or coherent to me. EXCEPT the Raioh combos. Those actually look really fantastic to me, especially compared to the awful combos that came before it.
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I think the absolute greatest victory of this line is that the combined forms look cohesive, but not coherent. It seems that those are the two words coming up most often, and people are taking them to mean the same thing. No, Gobuster Oh is not coherent, he looks like a complete mess of robot parts, but for that, he looks cohesive, or convolutedly combined together. Other mechs, like Gokai Oh, look coherent, with each distinct part showing, while they don't look cohesive at all, but rather, like a couple of bricks laid next to each other.
I think the biggest divide here is caused by the fact that different people want different things from combining robots. Gobuster Oh looks pretty odd as a display piece, again, being an amalgamation of random bits and pieces, but he looks like a really cool toy robot for that same reason. I like my robots to look like they've actually combined, as opposed to something traditional. That's my problem with Gokai Oh, Gosei Great, and whatever else. In vehicle mode, the individual components look like arms and legs with wheels, while in combined mode, the components look like animals or vehicles with hands and feet. The individual components of the Gobusters have taken an enormous step forward, by introducing tons of functionality for the individual components, and combined modes that look, well, combined, and I really love the line for that. It's a shame that not everyone could be satisfied by it. And I still don't get how people can say Rai Oh looks better than Gorisaki in any mode. That's just ridiculous. Quote:
No it isn't ridiculous. The RaihOh is a functional multi-mode figure. Gorisaki is a truck and then he turns into a hollow set of legs with a head attached. He is easily the worst individual figure of the line. Even the Rabbit copter is better than that if for nothing else than how well it transitions from copter to rabbit.
And while everything that makes up the GobusterOh and Great Gobuster may look like they go together how is that an excuse for them looking awful? How does looking like a big pile of odd parts thrown together make it a good toy robot? I'm having trouble understanding how for that reason you can like the GobusterOh but then others use it as an argument against the RaiOh? |
10-06-2012, 02:18 AM | #20 |
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I think this is one of those toys you need to have in hand to really appreciate. In person the arms arent as lanky as they seem in pictures. I was one of the ones that thought it looked horrible combined. But when I got the toy I was blown away. Yes tthere are problems (Ace's legs, chest parts sticking out) but its a FUN toy to transform. If next year they go back to Gokaiger style combinations I may boycott Sentai for the year. |
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