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View Poll Results: Do you want Toku to become more mainstream? | |||
Yes, more people would be great! | 52 | 46.43% | |
No, a smaller fandom is best. | 25 | 22.32% | |
I'm fine either way. | 35 | 31.25% | |
Voters: 112. This poll is closed |
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10-04-2021, 06:31 PM | #151 |
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You're delusional. Super doesn't cater to Americans by any means. It literally never has. It caters to some PEOPLE more than others, but definitely not what you're insinuating. I don't know where you pulled that from but you need to put it back.
There are literally interviews where they've stated their target audience is Japanese grade school kids(always has been, by the way). Just because some of that lines up with what Americans want does not mean that they're targeting Americans. Last edited by Chasing; 10-04-2021 at 06:36 PM.. |
10-04-2021, 07:10 PM | #152 |
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Super has far too much whimsy to be catering to the typical "American DBZ" crowd. I've mostly seen that crowd hate it.
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10-04-2021, 07:32 PM | #153 |
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Dragon Ball may not be as blatant as Kamen Rider and Sentai when it comes to selling toys, but Dragon Ball Super is a merchandise driven show.
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10-04-2021, 08:00 PM | #154 |
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Tbh if we're going by fan reactions and live events, if they were somehow catering to anyone outside Japan (Which I doubt) it'd be Mexico.
Like witnessing those last episodes and the buzz around all those live events around Mexico? Now that was an incredible thing to hear about. |
10-05-2021, 02:58 AM | #155 |
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I would consider being mainstream, at least to your average person in Britain as the bulk of family-friendly toku being on TV in a normal time slot like either Doctor Who or children's slots and the adult toku just overnight or something the same as Japan and unfortunately, there probably will always be some people that ''just don't get it''. But although I can't speak for the US, I think both the UK and Japan are more just a 50/50 situation than like everyone has fast internet, whereas if you're talking about countries with fast internet I would have thought Estonia or South Korea or maybe somewhere in Scandinavia would be more of an obvious choice tbh!
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10-05-2021, 03:56 AM | #156 |
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If I was so delusional then explain to me why the SHF Zamasu was a US exclusive.
Explain to me why the SHF SSBKK Goku is a US exclusive, and also why the Toei decided to have american people in their staff in order to make Dragon Ball more appealing to the west? I’m far from being delusional... |
10-05-2021, 05:05 AM | #157 |
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If I was so delusional then explain to me why the SHF Zamasu was a US exclusive.
Explain to me why the SHF SSBKK Goku is a US exclusive, and also why the Toei decided to have american people in their staff in order to make Dragon Ball more appealing to the west? I’m far from being delusional... Also, Toei Animation has other non-japanese people in their staff for Dragon Ball too, like filipinos as well. Does that mean they're appealing to us, too? |
10-05-2021, 05:17 AM | #158 |
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If I was so delusional then explain to me why the SHF Zamasu was a US exclusive.
Explain to me why the SHF SSBKK Goku is a US exclusive, and also why the Toei decided to have american people in their staff in order to make Dragon Ball more appealing to the west? I’m far from being delusional... Then YOU explain why it focused more on the slice of life whimsy, why it didn't lean into the acting and music most US DBZ fans are nostalgic for. Calm down, jeez. |
10-05-2021, 06:56 AM | #159 |
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Aren't SHFs specifically for the adult collector side of the fandom in the first place?
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10-06-2021, 12:05 AM | #160 |
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OK, back on topic regarding Squid Game's impact on the US pop culture scene. I got several report on Squid Game's deep impact in the US:
NBC News article: Netflix's 'Squid Game' is a sensation. Here's why it's so popular 2nd NBC News article: Netflix's 'Squid Game,' a South Korean TV thriller, is over-hyped — but still historic And to the skeptics that think that tokusatsu can't become mainstream because it's too foreign, or American can't read subtitles. Well, let me quote one of the NBC article: Quote:
Streaming services featuring global content have dispelled the myth that Americans won’t watch movies and TV shows with subtitles, and no international hit has made that clearer than South Korea’s “Squid Game.”
“Squid Game” follows on the success of a host of other K-drama (Korean drama) shows, with viewership of the genre tripling among U.S. audiences last year through shows like “Kingdom S2” and “The King: Eternal Monarch.” Other countries have also gotten in on the act. “Money Heist,” a Spanish TV thriller, has developed a cult following around the globe. Other European productions, like “Barbarians” from Germany and “Rogue City” from France, also proved to be popular among Americans, among many others. All of which proves the prediction of Bong Joon Ho, the Oscar-winning director of the South Korean movie “Parasite,” the first non-English-language film to win the best picture award at the Oscars: “Once you overcome the 1-inch-tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films.” No longer do U.S. audiences shy away from subtitled content; clearly, they welcome it. But once Netflix provided access to international content, it changed the consuming experience for Americans, as well. In the past, a foreign show made for, say, the BBC in London would need a U.S. distributor to purchase the rights to sell them to a U.S. television network. But when a show like “Squid Game” is released on a global streaming service in South Korea, it is immediately available worldwide. And audiences have shown that they are eager to consume it quickly as is. U.S. viewership of foreign-language productions on Netflix increased by 50 percent last year. How can Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, and Ultraman be able to get the same success in the US that Squid Game, K-dramas, and other foreign-language drama got in the US thanks to Netflix and other distributors that specialize in foreign-language content. |
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