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10-22-2019, 04:04 PM | #61 |
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Amazons is the only modern Rider series I haven't watched all the way through. I got about halfway into season two and decided I just couldn't tolerate it any more. Everything about it felt so awkward and staged that I just couldn't take it anymore.
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10-22-2019, 10:35 PM | #62 |
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I'm pretty sure if something on the level of Kuuga or Agito aired on present day's children programming block, it'd get banned and axed in no time.
That said, a lot of the recent Rider shows have had plenty of darker or mature moments, they just have a lot of fun and levity to go along with it too. Of course, neither dark or lighthearted moments are always executed perfectly, but I think any year-long show that only ever has one tone set in stone would be a lot less compelling than what we've been getting. Quote:
Kuuga is a very grounded series without a lot of the zaniness even the next season will partially bring. A lot of its darker aspects have not much to balance it out really and the only thing that sticks out is when things get worse.
As violent and dark as Agito, for example, can get, it has a lot more to balance out the bad things, moments, not so much episodes, but there is just a stronger optimistic tone and message buried beneath it that makes it easier to stomach for me. Aka, it feels the show wants to tell a hopeful message told through the darkness, one Kuuga just didn't nail for me as much with its more grounded story and tone. Quote:
Never watch the movie, though. Just, no. I watched it last Christmas (I was under the impression that red and green Riders made it a Christmas movie) and, while I won't know for sure until this December, me watching it may have killed Santa Claus.
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10-22-2019, 11:36 PM | #63 |
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Kuuga hits a tone for me because he starts out so happy and optimistic and eventually is just beaten down and sort of traumatized by it all.
Being a Rider is a heavy burden and it turns a happy guy into a living weapon of extreme destruction. There's a sadness to that particular Riders story that I dont see in many Riders. The original 1971 Rider was like that in a way too. It was a curse to him and not a gift, to be a Rider. |
10-23-2019, 12:29 AM | #64 |
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Kuuga hits a tone for me because he starts out so happy and optimistic and eventually is just beaten down and sort of traumatized by it all.
Being a Rider is a heavy burden and it turns a happy guy into a living weapon of extreme destruction. There's a sadness to that particular Riders story that I dont see in many Riders. The original 1971 Rider was like that in a way too. It was a curse to him and not a gift, to be a Rider.
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10-23-2019, 01:47 AM | #65 |
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Oh, the Mika episodes. Yeah, I don't know if it's the writing, the acting, or both, but this part of the story just didn't resonate with me. There's a lot of unique things I like from Kuuga (the atmosphere, the eventual theme, the teamwork with non-Rider human characters, piecing out just what the Grongi are up to), but some of the sub-plots and supporting characters just flat out didn't work.
Anyway, while I personally prefer my Rider shows to be mostly serious and heavy, it doesn't necessarily have to be so dark, violent, and brooding all the time. That's why my current Top 3 are Ryuki, Gaim, and W, which I feel have a healthy mix of tension, humour, tragedy, and fun factor. |
10-23-2019, 02:12 AM | #66 |
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Oh, the Mika episodes. Yeah, I don't know if it's the writing, the acting, or both, but this part of the story just didn't resonate with me. There's a lot of unique things I like from Kuuga (the atmosphere, the eventual theme, the teamwork with non-Rider human characters, piecing out just what the Grongi are up to), but some of the sub-plots and supporting characters just flat out didn't work.
Anyway, while I personally prefer my Rider shows to be mostly serious and heavy, it doesn't necessarily have to be so dark, violent, and brooding all the time. That's why my current Top 3 are Ryuki, Gaim, and W, which I feel have a healthy mix of tension, humour, tragedy, and fun factor.
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10-23-2019, 08:25 AM | #67 |
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Wait till you see Kamen Rider BLACK and Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue. Plenty of Kleenex boxes will be required.
That said, a very common element in Kamen Rider shows is that it is mostly a story of a person who uses the forces of evil to fight said evil despite the struggle. Not all shows are like that, but most of them are and I think it is something I don't mind seeing be regurgitated over and over again.
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10-23-2019, 08:25 AM | #68 |
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I wasn't trying to spoil anything (I hope I didn't), just addressing the overall tone of the show to me mirrors the Original Rider in some ways and that's part of the appeal.
Also Rising Ultimate Kuuga is probably one of the most powerful out of all the Riders, and he looks super cool. |
10-23-2019, 01:24 PM | #69 |
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I like to do things in order. I suspect I may be high functioning autistic and that kind of always doing things in order thing is typical. It really never occurred to me to do otherwise. Would have started with the original Kamen Rider if there were subs for everything, but Kuuga was where the unbroken line of subs started, so there I started.
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10-23-2019, 02:00 PM | #70 |
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@catwhowalks
I have every Rider series subbed. PM me if you need help finding them or something. Cheers. (yes there was much hunting involved to get the complete collection. hahaha) Last edited by KaijuUltraFan; 10-23-2019 at 02:05 PM.. |
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